But it was more like the Jews were loosing followers

So they had him excommunicated the old-fashioned way

cults and prophets were pretty common back then

so it was just business as usual

I do think it is weird that a funeral would be held for you if you were excommunicated

These days you wouldn't die, but a funeral would still take place

he probably got torn apart from birds or something

in reality

or died from dehydration

maybe he was deathly allergic to palm leaves

it's possible his followers grabbed his body and buried him afterward

probably

welp

we will never know

Or it's all made up bullshit

he was probably real but like a pretty minor figure

kinda like if people decided to start a cult of harambe

yea, i dont think jesus existed

nor most 'historical' jewish figures

IF he was real, he was a Nazarene, which was a jewish sect influenced by greek philosophy when ALexander invaded

Alexander the Great is absent from the bible, etc

That Jesus didn't exist is an old idea debunked by modern secular scholars .

that's news to me

looks like argument is getting stronger if anything

Wikipedia: Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically,[g]

I mean there’s plenty of Roman records which mention Jesus of Nazareth and he’s recorded by different rabbis who accused him of practicing magic and heresy. @Sh0t

Jesus probably existed and he probably got crucified. Anything outside of that is very speculative because he was a peasant who didn’t have a scholar recording all of his actions and he didn’t leave lots for archaeological evidence of his existence.

But trying to assert that there was never a heterodox Abrahamic religious leader named Jesus is a meme.

There are still Jesus mythicists

Such as Ehrman

@fuck12moredeadcops Same wikipedia page @pennypal quotes above says: ```While discussing the "striking" fact that "we don't have any Roman records, of any kind, that attest to the existence of Jesus," Ehrman dismisses claims that this means Jesus never existed, saying, "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees, based on clear and certain evidence.```

That whole page has no evidence besides "No serious scholar believes..."

that ain't evidence

roman records? like what

that phrase or some version of it repeatsl ike 10 times there, that's argument from authority. I can point to 'serious scholars' that say something quite different like Carrier, etc

talk page for that one is a doosy too

GG @Sh0t, you just advanced to level 9!

Carrier actually comments on it

wow

God freaks are going to have a huge fight with the Trannies to determine whom is more in denial of reality coming up

@Sh0t Flavius Joeseph, a an ancient Roman and Jewish historian, in 93 AD recorded Jesus in two separate accounts and mentions his brother James in the latter, corroborating their existence. Tacticus, who was a Roman statesman in the 2nd century, (about 20 years after Flavius recorded Jesus) confirms in an account that Pontius Pilate was the prefect of Judea, confirms that Tiberius was emperor at the time Pilate was prefect of Judea, and confirms that a man name Jesus was crucified. Pliny is one of the first non-Christians to mention people worshipping a man named Jesus as God when he was the Roman governor of northern Turkey