https://apnews.com/4516833e7fb644c9aa8bcc11048b2169
> But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.

Support increased when people were told “Medicare-for-all” would guarantee health insurance as a right (71 percent) and eliminate premiums and reduce out-of-pocket costs (67 percent).

Yeah.

But as told, people don’t want higher taxes or higher wait times

It's one thing if you have a universal option in conjunction with private sources, but banning the latter and only relying on government provided healthcare is a recipe for disaster

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people like it when it's all roses and tulips

When Americans are actually probed and given the facts; there is overwhelming support

Cosby the paragraph you quoted was *before* my paragraph

“But when told.. higher taxes and wait times... support drops significantly”

Right, so when you lie to them

Lol

They are going to pay less, and have comparable (if not lower) wait times

It isn’t a lie.

If you lie to them, they are going to change their answer

Some studies find much higher wait times, and obviously higher taxes

Most Americans would end up paying far less than they currently do

The tax thing is a red herring.

> We estimate that total health expenditures under a Medicare for All plan that provides comprehensive coverage and long-term care benefits would be $3.89 trillion in 2019 (assuming such a plan was in place for all of the year), or a 1.8 percent increase relative to expenditures under current law. This estimate accounts for a variety of factors including increased demand for health services, changes in payment and prices, and lower administrative costs. **We also include a supply constraint that results in unmet demand equal to 50 percent of the new demand.** If there were no supply constraint, we estimate that total health expenditures would increase by 9.8 percent to $4.20 trillion.

That’s a large wait time (in bold).

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3106.html

The argument about wait times is completely false.

Not exactly, the healthcare system is supply constrained. Increasing demand results in higher wait times.

So we have one of the lowest in the world currently, that can change drastically with Sanders passing his plan.

Neither the facts nor experts agree with your opinion

That's all you've got - an uninformed opinion

The study I linked above seems to agree

(It also finds increased national spending, contrary to what Sanders thinks).

I also forgot to add, quality might decrease too.

**and** the fact that it’s politically impossible to pass. In other words, not realistic. But if it does happen it’ll be shit.

Even your own studies you post contradict your point

"Overall, we estimate that health care spending would increase by 1.8 percent relative to expenditures under current law,"

So, a 1.8% increase is going to bankrupt us? Lol

No it’s not, but the point is sanders claims we’ll reduce costs.

Likewise costing **less** than the current system, this precise study says otherwise.

Most studies disagree, you can try to cherry pick stuff that vaguely aligns with your point

We spend more and get less than other countries

I wouldn’t be so sure, I can provide other studies too that reach similar conclusions.

My ideal system would be a fully privatised system; deregulation and removing interference.

The system is broken, and cruel

Are you American?