Message from @Dr.Cosby

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2020-03-13 21:56:01 UTC  

That’s a large wait time (in bold).

2020-03-13 21:56:50 UTC  

The argument about wait times is completely false.

2020-03-13 21:57:07 UTC  

Not exactly, the healthcare system is supply constrained. Increasing demand results in higher wait times.

2020-03-13 21:57:25 UTC  

So we have one of the lowest in the world currently, that can change drastically with Sanders passing his plan.

2020-03-13 21:57:57 UTC  

Neither the facts nor experts agree with your opinion

2020-03-13 21:58:08 UTC  

That's all you've got - an uninformed opinion

2020-03-13 21:58:16 UTC  

The study I linked above seems to agree

2020-03-13 21:58:47 UTC  

(It also finds increased national spending, contrary to what Sanders thinks).

2020-03-13 21:59:31 UTC  

I also forgot to add, quality might decrease too.

2020-03-13 21:59:41 UTC  

**and** the fact that it’s politically impossible to pass. In other words, not realistic. But if it does happen it’ll be shit.

2020-03-13 21:59:59 UTC  

Even your own studies you post contradict your point

2020-03-13 22:00:01 UTC  

"Overall, we estimate that health care spending would increase by 1.8 percent relative to expenditures under current law,"

2020-03-13 22:00:13 UTC  

So, a 1.8% increase is going to bankrupt us? Lol

2020-03-13 22:00:26 UTC  

No it’s not, but the point is sanders claims we’ll reduce costs.

2020-03-13 22:00:40 UTC  

Likewise costing **less** than the current system, this precise study says otherwise.

2020-03-13 22:01:12 UTC  

Most studies disagree, you can try to cherry pick stuff that vaguely aligns with your point

2020-03-13 22:01:20 UTC  

We spend more and get less than other countries

2020-03-13 22:01:27 UTC  

I wouldn’t be so sure, I can provide other studies too that reach similar conclusions.

2020-03-13 22:01:31 UTC  

My ideal system would be a fully privatised system; deregulation and removing interference.

2020-03-13 22:01:32 UTC  

The system is broken, and cruel

2020-03-13 22:01:39 UTC  

Are you American?

2020-03-13 22:01:48 UTC  

If you are, you're very unpatriotic.

2020-03-13 22:02:16 UTC  

If you're a foreigner, your attempts to hurt this country are well noted - good luck tovarish

2020-03-13 22:02:44 UTC  

> We spend more and get less than other countries
It’s much more nuanced than that lol

2020-03-13 22:03:01 UTC  

You can’t just say “we spend more than other countries, so lets adopt a totally different system to them”

2020-03-13 22:03:24 UTC  

Why do we spend more? Prime driving force is intervention such as regulation raising costs.

2020-03-13 22:03:33 UTC  

Another reason would be obesity and income.

2020-03-13 22:03:35 UTC  

The right wing solution seems to be: do nothing. Line pockets with money

2020-03-13 22:03:43 UTC  

Health expenditures rise with income, the US is richer than most.

2020-03-13 22:03:47 UTC  

Does Trump have an amazing healthcare plan? Where is it?

2020-03-13 22:03:58 UTC  

Well he wants to repeal Obamacare which is a good start.

2020-03-13 22:04:03 UTC  

Lol it's been 4 years

2020-03-13 22:04:06 UTC  

However his team is drawing up one

2020-03-13 22:04:15 UTC  

Right...drawing up one...

2020-03-13 22:04:19 UTC  

Obamacare is currently being struck down, a ruling on it is imminent.

2020-03-13 22:04:46 UTC  

My healthcare plan would be to cut government intervention - which has been the driver behind higher prices.

2020-03-13 22:05:00 UTC  

Do-nothing president hasn't done shit to improve our healthcare system, but you still trust the liar in chief to do something about it

2020-03-13 22:05:11 UTC  

Well drug prices have fallen first time in decades

2020-03-13 22:05:12 UTC  

So

2020-03-13 22:06:17 UTC  

Anything good that happens, give Trump credit. Anything bad that happens, blame Obama