Message from @Yusa
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I’m very mad at Trump right now. The $2.2 trillion stimulus package was crazy, shutting down the nation was CRAZY and planning to enforce the shutdown on some states is CRAZIER.
all bc of the corona virus noob
TRUMP2020
MAGA
Obviously he was slow to respond to the outbreak but I don't know how much better any other president could do because we are slow to respond to any kind of problem because of the way our democracy is set up.
I'm not mad at trump
if anything I like him more
No, I think he is doing a stupid response to the virus
I think closing down businesses is stupid
But I love that they're giving back tax money to people
I don't get why libertarian types are so mad about it, they're giving the money that they stole back, right?
well some people were mad about the first bill because they were trying to give unnecessary bailouts for some industries
trump bad
@Yusa Why is it bad?
@Festive Spaghetti Slow?
Well shutting down infected areas is a good start so people don’t spread the virus everywhere
It didn’t help that China lied about it
Plus making sure we don’t get people from infected areas helps the spread lessen
I think his response has been pretty epic
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TL;DR?
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ @Deleted User Alright, so first off, the government didn’t “steal” any money from us. We are paying for services that they provide (e.g. protection, roads, and regulators).
When the government does stuff like stimulate the economy by spending money they don’t have, people in the future are going to have to pay high taxes as a consequence for the government’s actions. This is one reason why us conservatives want the government to have less control.
I agree, normally I don't like stimulus. But in this case the short term issues caused by a recession that is *not their fault* (firms and consumers) is very bad.
We should help them out.
Also, Trump shouldn’t of quarantined people for a list of reasons:
1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
2. It destroys the economy
3. It denies us freedom.
4. It gives the government more power
We’re basically skipping the work part of socialism and heading straight to the supposed benefits, but that will fail the economy fast.
He hasn't quarentined anyone *yet*, but
> 1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
> 2. It destroys the economy
> 3. It denies us freedom.
> 4. It gives the government more power
Are all worth stopping a national emergency like a virus, we're not an-caps - we're conservatives. However that does not mean we're crazy libertarians that want people dead vs "lower freedom" for a short term
Although Trump's response is still great, economic and virus wise.
So wait
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Alright, here’s the thing, first off, stats show that the majority of deaths by coronavirus are from older people. In fact, the average age of coronavirus deaths is somewhere in the 80s. There have been no reported deaths of people 10 and under and only 1 reported death of people under 19. The fatality rate for people under 40 is 0.2%
The main problem is older people
You’d ignore a national crisis?
While that's true, older people need to be protected too.
If that means the economy slows so be it, it's worth protecting citizens.
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Well then, just quarantine them. Don’t shut down the economy
Put the people before the economy, wise
^ We need to balance both, Trump is doing this.
The problem is we can't quarantine them because they are also in contact with younger people and other people.