Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
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No, it didn’t..
Let’s try again
TL;DR?
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ @Deleted User Alright, so first off, the government didn’t “steal” any money from us. We are paying for services that they provide (e.g. protection, roads, and regulators).
When the government does stuff like stimulate the economy by spending money they don’t have, people in the future are going to have to pay high taxes as a consequence for the government’s actions. This is one reason why us conservatives want the government to have less control.
I agree, normally I don't like stimulus. But in this case the short term issues caused by a recession that is *not their fault* (firms and consumers) is very bad.
We should help them out.
Also, Trump shouldn’t of quarantined people for a list of reasons:
1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
2. It destroys the economy
3. It denies us freedom.
4. It gives the government more power
We’re basically skipping the work part of socialism and heading straight to the supposed benefits, but that will fail the economy fast.
He hasn't quarentined anyone *yet*, but
> 1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
> 2. It destroys the economy
> 3. It denies us freedom.
> 4. It gives the government more power
Are all worth stopping a national emergency like a virus, we're not an-caps - we're conservatives. However that does not mean we're crazy libertarians that want people dead vs "lower freedom" for a short term
Although Trump's response is still great, economic and virus wise.
So wait
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Alright, here’s the thing, first off, stats show that the majority of deaths by coronavirus are from older people. In fact, the average age of coronavirus deaths is somewhere in the 80s. There have been no reported deaths of people 10 and under and only 1 reported death of people under 19. The fatality rate for people under 40 is 0.2%
The main problem is older people
You’d ignore a national crisis?
While that's true, older people need to be protected too.
If that means the economy slows so be it, it's worth protecting citizens.
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Well then, just quarantine them. Don’t shut down the economy
Put the people before the economy, wise
^ We need to balance both, Trump is doing this.
The problem is we can't quarantine them because they are also in contact with younger people and other people.
@Katze Miaulitzer I am. I’m just saying that this death rate is so small for people under 40yrs old that it’s safer then the flu for them.
It's not like it's a flu either, it is a more deadlier virus that the flu.
@Cobra Commander Would like to say a few words I believe.
Well, why not stop the virus before it does becomes a problem
^
It spreads very fast so
Look I think this will be gone by Summer anyways, it's best to slow and stop it then.
@Katze Miaulitzer Because there are better ways to solve the problem
Besides Trump's approval would sink if he did nothing.
Politically it's important too.
Let’s find a vaccine and cure first
Yeah, it would sink
But since *he is* doing it, his approval on the crisis and his overall is high.
That’s why I’m not really blaming the man that much for what he’s doing
Is there anybody from Italy on this server?
They did a shit job and weren’t equipped with the hospitals
Plus China lied about the whole thing and tried to cover it up
Because if they told me that the virus was really “that bad”, then I would take this thing a tad bit more seriously.
You should, do your part and maintain social distancing.
Follow the CDC guidelines.