Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2020-03-29 17:59:00 UTC  

Plus making sure we don’t get people from infected areas helps the spread lessen

2020-03-29 18:42:16 UTC  

I think his response has been pretty epic

2020-03-29 18:51:03 UTC  

Did this message post?

2020-03-29 18:51:16 UTC  

No, it didn’t..

2020-03-29 18:51:21 UTC  

Let’s try again

2020-03-29 18:51:28 UTC  

TL;DR?

2020-03-29 18:51:49 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ @Deleted User Alright, so first off, the government didn’t “steal” any money from us. We are paying for services that they provide (e.g. protection, roads, and regulators).

2020-03-29 18:51:51 UTC  

When the government does stuff like stimulate the economy by spending money they don’t have, people in the future are going to have to pay high taxes as a consequence for the government’s actions. This is one reason why us conservatives want the government to have less control.

2020-03-29 18:52:40 UTC  

I agree, normally I don't like stimulus. But in this case the short term issues caused by a recession that is *not their fault* (firms and consumers) is very bad.

2020-03-29 18:52:44 UTC  

We should help them out.

2020-03-29 18:55:21 UTC  

Also, Trump shouldn’t of quarantined people for a list of reasons:
1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
2. It destroys the economy
3. It denies us freedom.
4. It gives the government more power

2020-03-29 18:56:14 UTC  

We’re basically skipping the work part of socialism and heading straight to the supposed benefits, but that will fail the economy fast.

2020-03-29 18:56:59 UTC  

He hasn't quarentined anyone *yet*, but
> 1. Facilities already have systems in place for when a worker is sick
> 2. It destroys the economy
> 3. It denies us freedom.
> 4. It gives the government more power
Are all worth stopping a national emergency like a virus, we're not an-caps - we're conservatives. However that does not mean we're crazy libertarians that want people dead vs "lower freedom" for a short term

2020-03-29 18:57:17 UTC  

Although Trump's response is still great, economic and virus wise.

2020-03-29 19:07:32 UTC  

So wait

2020-03-29 19:07:38 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Alright, here’s the thing, first off, stats show that the majority of deaths by coronavirus are from older people. In fact, the average age of coronavirus deaths is somewhere in the 80s. There have been no reported deaths of people 10 and under and only 1 reported death of people under 19. The fatality rate for people under 40 is 0.2%

2020-03-29 19:07:46 UTC  

The main problem is older people

2020-03-29 19:07:50 UTC  

You’d ignore a national crisis?

2020-03-29 19:07:52 UTC  

While that's true, older people need to be protected too.

2020-03-29 19:08:09 UTC  

If that means the economy slows so be it, it's worth protecting citizens.

2020-03-29 19:08:17 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Well then, just quarantine them. Don’t shut down the economy

2020-03-29 19:08:28 UTC  

Put the people before the economy, wise

2020-03-29 19:09:38 UTC  

^ We need to balance both, Trump is doing this.

The problem is we can't quarantine them because they are also in contact with younger people and other people.

2020-03-29 19:09:52 UTC  

@Katze Miaulitzer I am. I’m just saying that this death rate is so small for people under 40yrs old that it’s safer then the flu for them.

2020-03-29 19:10:02 UTC  

It's not like it's a flu either, it is a more deadlier virus that the flu.

2020-03-29 19:10:11 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Would like to say a few words I believe.

2020-03-29 19:10:14 UTC  

Well, why not stop the virus before it does becomes a problem

2020-03-29 19:10:34 UTC  

^

2020-03-29 19:10:39 UTC  

It spreads very fast so

2020-03-29 19:10:53 UTC  

Look I think this will be gone by Summer anyways, it's best to slow and stop it then.

2020-03-29 19:11:01 UTC  

@Katze Miaulitzer Because there are better ways to solve the problem

2020-03-29 19:11:01 UTC  

Besides Trump's approval would sink if he did nothing.

2020-03-29 19:11:06 UTC  

Politically it's important too.

2020-03-29 19:11:12 UTC  

Let’s find a vaccine and cure first

2020-03-29 19:11:16 UTC  

Yeah, it would sink

2020-03-29 19:11:20 UTC  

But since *he is* doing it, his approval on the crisis and his overall is high.

2020-03-29 19:11:34 UTC  

That’s why I’m not really blaming the man that much for what he’s doing

2020-03-29 19:11:58 UTC  

Is there anybody from Italy on this server?

2020-03-29 19:12:21 UTC  

They did a shit job and weren’t equipped with the hospitals

2020-03-29 19:12:44 UTC  

Plus China lied about the whole thing and tried to cover it up