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Because he lies?
Indeed
Why is that impossible for a God to do?
Because it goes against the nature of God.
Also thats what you posted from edward fraeser not thomas aquinas.
Why would the nature of God be one where he never deceives
@!GoldenKingship! it's a defeater for thomism
Literally why would that be a necessary quality of a supreme being
@fuck12moredeadcops To fit moral perfection, which is key in classical theism.
Because there is no greater than God
You are over-concluded on edwards refined proofs of aquinas lol.
Why do you think theists argue for moral perfection lol.
Because its not!
King shutup
I'm talking to someone else.
You conceded ages ago.
You have nothing valuable to say.
Niv=ce to see you ran
Nah, it's just that you're retarded and can't defend your faith properly.
Oh am i?
Retard.
This is by the standard of human moral perfection, Allah doesn’t have a similar moral code. He could lie, steal, and cheat, and it would still be moral actions definitionally. He creates morality and is from where morality is understood. We can not fathom why God might lie unless he reveals why he is lying, and we cannot fully know Gods plan, you need only put faith in the fact that it is a good plan.
Are you expressing a reflection of yourself though?
Then that morality is arbitrary on God, meaning morals would be subjective.
You've bitten the second horn of the Euthyphro dilemma.
I think God is fully capable of lying and myth has many examples of him lying intentionally
To God his morals are subjective
Our morals aren’t
Hence you cannot believe in objective moral values.
They’re determined according to the will of the supreme being
How a supreme being arrives at its own morals, is not something we can understand
Lol, there isn't objective moral values and subjective moral values at the same time.
Then all of it is subjective in accordance to the opinion of Allah
Then you're now falling into skeptical theism.
Meaning you cannot now trust God.
Since skeptical theism undercuts trust.
I cannot trust God in the sense that I fully know Him
Which is fine with me
You have no choice but to trust God
I'll send you a paper on it.