You are over-concluded on edwards refined proofs of aquinas lol.

Why do you think theists argue for moral perfection lol.

Because its not!

King shutup

I'm talking to someone else.

You conceded ages ago.

You have nothing valuable to say.

Niv=ce to see you ran

Nah, it's just that you're retarded and can't defend your faith properly.

Oh am i?

Yeah.

Retard.

This is by the standard of human moral perfection, Allah doesn’t have a similar moral code. He could lie, steal, and cheat, and it would still be moral actions definitionally. He creates morality and is from where morality is understood. We can not fathom why God might lie unless he reveals why he is lying, and we cannot fully know Gods plan, you need only put faith in the fact that it is a good plan.

Are you expressing a reflection of yourself though?

Then that morality is arbitrary on God, meaning morals would be subjective.

You've bitten the second horn of the Euthyphro dilemma.

I think God is fully capable of lying and myth has many examples of him lying intentionally

To God his morals are subjective

Our morals aren’t

Hence you cannot believe in objective moral values.

They’re determined according to the will of the supreme being

How a supreme being arrives at its own morals, is not something we can understand

Lol, there isn't objective moral values and subjective moral values at the same time.

Then all of it is subjective in accordance to the opinion of Allah

Then you're now falling into skeptical theism.

Meaning you cannot now trust God.

Since skeptical theism undercuts trust.

I cannot trust God in the sense that I fully know Him

Which is fine with me

You have no choice but to trust God

I'll send you a paper on it.

Just like a three-year-old has no choice but to trust their parents

I don’t see the inherent problem in not being able to know God’s motives fully

> I cannot trust God in the sense that I fully know Him

Well no, you cannot trust God at all since you do not have sufficient knowledge to understand God's actions.

No one does

What’s wrong with that?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10pfjEiZ15iok3hrNHMms9OsuAd5wwpxK/view?usp=sharing

Of course you have the choice but what you don't have the choice of is going to heaven. Your actions are what dictate whether you are accepted into the so called "Afterlife"

Do you really think you're capable there's a finite being of understanding God... Unless he tells you. and even then it's going to be within a very narrow for any more of your ability to understand

Undercutting trust with God now undercuts faith and belief.

@pennypal god of gaps fallacy