@Puerto Rican Nelson what is your point then?

@Sauropithicus sentience and able to examine our decisions and lot in life is the human experience, that's all.

@wuzamarine semantics, but ok, I should make myself more aware of legal terminology and that sort of thing, I'll grant you. Sorry if i misused a term but I think you get my point that any law is made based off of a moral judgment

nope. common laws is rooted in math

I lost 1, is the typical equation.

@Puerto Rican Nelson I dont think sentience is a good definition of what makes a human a human. Once again, coma example. I think DNA is the best measure of whether someone is a human or not

You can't explain that murder is immoral with a mathematical equation

@Sauropithicus if we want to stay strictly to the animal kingdom I guess

You could make a utilitarian argument perhaps, but Im not interested in utilitarian ethics, I find that shit disturbing

@Sauropithicus Murder is only immoral when authorized by the wrong party.

Utilitarian ethics can justify a whole bunch of crazy shit, lets just stick to the NAP bro

Murder is immoral

When murder is defined as aggressive killing of another individual

key word aggressive

But all murder is immoral

There is no such thing as justified murder, if its justified killing, it isnt accurate to call it murder

Tell that to any typical Marine.
I used to get medals for the deed

Well if what you did was moral, I wouldnt call it murder

GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 3!

killing can be moral, but if it is then it isnt murder

The plaque at 1st USMC Div Recon read "Killing people is our business"

Killing people can be justified

Got milk

@Sauropithicus do you believe in a morally neutral homicide?

Murder is only immoral when authorized by the wrong party. That is just a fact.

Murder is immoral

Moral killing isnt murder

Moral killing is just killing

Killing is not inherently immoral

What's the difference between murder and a killing? Authorization.

Yes.

No

Murder is aggressive

Non-murder killing is reactionary

To some other point of aggression

Perhaps attempted murder

As much as I disagree with this morally, I think it should be an option for a woman to abort if it's a rape case (because this is being forced) or if it's truly life threatening. The problem is that a majority of abortions aren't done for these reasons, more for convenience.

Oh, I'm not one of these people who will call girls whores and sluts or murderers for getting abortions

I just think its misguided and while I think the action is immoral I dont think they had any mal intent

Well, you never saw a battle field so you can honestly say you don't kow.
But your perception is skewed.

Murder is immoral