It doesnt matter if they initiated violence in a "cold manner", by aggressive I just mean that they initiated the violence

teens that kill to join gangs?

aggressive

driveby typically

because the people they kill (Im assuming) didnt commit violence against them first

GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 4!

some fucked up shit happens in war zones.

When you talk about wars, thats gray for me, because its much harder to tell who is being aggressive and who is being reactionary when you're talking about collectives

Also, if soldiers commit violence against civilians, I would call that aggression

the only way to properly class murder without a lingering contradiction, is with authorization.

I dont see what is so contradictory about defining murder by the aspect of aggression

military is always going to be your screwball.

Collectives will always be hard

Not military specifically

mafia?

I mean any individual mafia member tends to be aggressive

Theft is a form of aggression, just directed at one's property as opposed to their person

mafias by nature are predatory

Agreed, theyre pretty aggressive

Blackwater?

Theft is directed towards a person, as one's property is an extension of their self ownership @Sauropithicus

Exactly

or any mercinary

But its not exactly their person

mercinaries are where things get SUPER grey.

But Id definitely agree with you @Khaine

yeah I just need examples of their actions

Their property isn't itself their person, but it's an extension of such

I'm just being picky

Thats fair, I understand

and i agree wholeheartedly

I am a fellow anarcho

Based

Idk why any actual anarchist would like an ancap

@wuzamarine Collectives are a little tricky but you could always boil it down to the actions of individuals and find whether those specific actions are aggressive are not

Anarchocapitalism is real anarchy

@Sauropithicus
Here's a good one, murder or killer?
Muslim Jihaddist

it really isn't

Anarchism is not the belief in the abolition of hierarchy, archos means ruler. Hierarchies are natural creations that when the world is left to itself, it is sorted out into

Jihaddist is aggressive

Capitalism isn't natural