Message from @Khaine

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2020-02-14 04:58:20 UTC  

Also, if soldiers commit violence against civilians, I would call that aggression

2020-02-14 04:58:23 UTC  

the only way to properly class murder without a lingering contradiction, is with authorization.

2020-02-14 04:58:46 UTC  

I dont see what is so contradictory about defining murder by the aspect of aggression

2020-02-14 04:58:50 UTC  

military is always going to be your screwball.

2020-02-14 04:59:13 UTC  

Collectives will always be hard

2020-02-14 04:59:20 UTC  

Not military specifically

2020-02-14 04:59:28 UTC  

mafia?

2020-02-14 04:59:47 UTC  

I mean any individual mafia member tends to be aggressive

2020-02-14 05:00:04 UTC  

Theft is a form of aggression, just directed at one's property as opposed to their person

2020-02-14 05:00:15 UTC  

mafias by nature are predatory

2020-02-14 05:00:28 UTC  

Agreed, theyre pretty aggressive

2020-02-14 05:00:33 UTC  

Blackwater?

2020-02-14 05:00:49 UTC  

Theft is directed towards a person, as one's property is an extension of their self ownership @Sauropithicus

2020-02-14 05:01:00 UTC  

Exactly

2020-02-14 05:01:03 UTC  

or any mercinary

2020-02-14 05:01:25 UTC  

But its not exactly their person

2020-02-14 05:01:41 UTC  

mercinaries are where things get SUPER grey.

2020-02-14 05:01:44 UTC  

But Id definitely agree with you @Khaine

2020-02-14 05:01:59 UTC  

yeah I just need examples of their actions

2020-02-14 05:02:12 UTC  

Their property isn't itself their person, but it's an extension of such

2020-02-14 05:02:20 UTC  

I'm just being picky

2020-02-14 05:02:28 UTC  

Thats fair, I understand

2020-02-14 05:02:35 UTC  

and i agree wholeheartedly

2020-02-14 05:02:52 UTC  

I am a fellow anarcho

2020-02-14 05:03:48 UTC  

Based

2020-02-14 05:04:03 UTC  

Idk why any actual anarchist would like an ancap

2020-02-14 05:04:08 UTC  

@wuzamarine Collectives are a little tricky but you could always boil it down to the actions of individuals and find whether those specific actions are aggressive are not

2020-02-14 05:04:20 UTC  

Anarchocapitalism is real anarchy

2020-02-14 05:04:29 UTC  

@Sauropithicus
Here's a good one, murder or killer?
Muslim Jihaddist

2020-02-14 05:04:57 UTC  

it really isn't

2020-02-14 05:04:58 UTC  

Anarchism is not the belief in the abolition of hierarchy, archos means ruler. Hierarchies are natural creations that when the world is left to itself, it is sorted out into

2020-02-14 05:05:08 UTC  

Jihaddist is aggressive

2020-02-14 05:05:19 UTC  

Capitalism isn't natural

2020-02-14 05:05:21 UTC  

Unless someone kills his family or something first

2020-02-14 05:05:24 UTC  

Capitalism is natural

2020-02-14 05:05:50 UTC  

capitalism is unnatural because it unrealistically restricts the states ability to enforce what people want

2020-02-14 05:06:01 UTC  

The state is not the people

2020-02-14 05:06:22 UTC  

Read anatomy of the state and wake the fuck up already, its like 50 short ass pages

2020-02-14 05:06:25 UTC  

the operation of land for one's own interests is only allowed because people allow them

2020-02-14 05:06:34 UTC  

the state isn't the people now but that doesn't have to be the case

2020-02-14 05:06:39 UTC  

A third of the pages are footnotes anyways bc Rothbard was such a crazy ass intellectual