Message from @wuzamarine
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By aggressive, I mean like they started it, not like its "aggressive"
no more aggressive than a patrol in a congressional war zone.
My bad for not defining terms, hypocrisy is a cold bitch
Ok but in a war zone (assuming combatants on both sides), both sides are equally aggressive and reactionary against one another which is why I say that its morally gray
special ops?
Marines are not always in congressional war zones and they do see fire.
Well my point is that in war when both sides are fighting against one another, both groups are kind of simultaneously "starting it" and "responding"
Like, as soldiers
Not that the nations(governments) involved themselves are equally responsible for starting and responding
How about Jeffrey Dahmer. He was as chill as you could get about the deed.
he's another extreme end.
Ok you didnt hear me a little while ago
Aggressive doesnt mean crazy
by aggressive I just mean "initiating violence"
and by reactionary I just mean "responding to the initiation of violence with violence"
It doesnt matter if they initiated violence in a "cold manner", by aggressive I just mean that they initiated the violence
teens that kill to join gangs?
aggressive
driveby typically
because the people they kill (Im assuming) didnt commit violence against them first
GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 4!
When you talk about wars, thats gray for me, because its much harder to tell who is being aggressive and who is being reactionary when you're talking about collectives
Also, if soldiers commit violence against civilians, I would call that aggression
the only way to properly class murder without a lingering contradiction, is with authorization.
I dont see what is so contradictory about defining murder by the aspect of aggression
military is always going to be your screwball.
Collectives will always be hard
Not military specifically
mafia?
I mean any individual mafia member tends to be aggressive
Theft is a form of aggression, just directed at one's property as opposed to their person
mafias by nature are predatory
Agreed, theyre pretty aggressive
Blackwater?
Theft is directed towards a person, as one's property is an extension of their self ownership @Sauropithicus
Exactly
or any mercinary
But its not exactly their person
mercinaries are where things get SUPER grey.
But Id definitely agree with you @Khaine
yeah I just need examples of their actions