Message from @quinnn

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2019-04-15 05:24:39 UTC  

because trans is another word for homosexuality

2019-04-15 05:25:07 UTC  

aka mental illness

2019-04-15 05:33:47 UTC  
2019-04-15 05:33:56 UTC  

you're inherently wrong here

2019-04-15 05:34:05 UTC  

although so am i to an extent

2019-04-15 05:34:18 UTC  

i thought people were a lot more accepting of trans people than they actually are

2019-04-15 05:34:22 UTC  

this was quite a shock to me

2019-04-15 05:34:48 UTC  

however, just as i have surrounded myself with people who are accepting, you've surrounded yourself with people who aren't

2019-04-15 05:35:01 UTC  

we both created an echo chamber for ourselves

2019-04-15 05:35:11 UTC  

but no you are wrong

2019-04-15 05:35:15 UTC  

in this situation

2019-04-15 05:35:59 UTC  

i personally would most likely never date a cis person - not because i hate cis people, but because they would most likely never be understanding of me and what i've gone through

2019-04-15 05:36:20 UTC  

just like those people who say "i accept normal gay people, but not those who flaunt it around"

2019-04-15 05:36:30 UTC  

who are you to define normal?!

2019-04-15 05:37:54 UTC  

I don't mind if somebody is open or proud about their sexuality, whatever. I do, however, find people whose sexuality is their personality to be incredibly obnoxious

2019-04-15 05:38:30 UTC  

Yeah see but would you do that for straight people who do the same?

2019-04-15 05:38:43 UTC  

It's like that dude at your lunch table who always talks about how many girls he bangs, it's annoying and obnoxious

2019-04-15 05:38:48 UTC  

Like straight men who objectify women?

2019-04-15 05:38:48 UTC  

Absolutely, 100%

2019-04-15 05:38:57 UTC  

See that I can respect

2019-04-15 05:39:15 UTC  

It's hatred of a specific toxic character trait, along all walks of life

2019-04-15 05:39:36 UTC  

You don't attempt to excuse anyone

2019-04-15 05:39:58 UTC  

I was under the idea most people hold my position, i suppose not?

2019-04-15 05:40:13 UTC  

It's that when people usually say that

2019-04-15 05:40:24 UTC  

They would encourage such behaviour if it were a straight male friend of theirs

2019-04-15 05:40:44 UTC  

So it's just an extension of one's homophobia, without them being directly homophobic

2019-04-15 05:42:15 UTC  

As for objectification, I think it's more of a matter of maturity and timing. If you see a cute girl / guy and say to a friend "Wow, that person is cute," then whatever, but if you run down the road screaming "OH YEA SO SEXY" then it's just a failure to conduct yourself maturely in public

2019-04-15 05:44:57 UTC  

I will, however, say that I've noticed the trait above is more common in those within the LGBT community as opposed to those without it. I believe it has something to do with the concept of an "in group," etc. I've found it more common for, say, a gay men to have his sexuality be a huge portion of his personality, then a straight man. That's just my personal experience, so you can take it with a grain of salt

2019-04-15 05:46:19 UTC  

I mean I see it more as being gay is more easily noticeable as an outsider because, to you, it's not "normal"

2019-04-15 05:46:40 UTC  

So what may not come off as flaunting to a gay person, may be so to a straight person and vice versa

2019-04-15 05:46:51 UTC  

The same with trans and cis people

2019-04-15 05:47:15 UTC  

I don't mean mannerisms, I mean literal immediate sexual innuendo comments within minutes of interacting, but I understand your point

2019-04-15 05:47:34 UTC  

Once again, just my experience.

2019-04-15 05:48:01 UTC  

Another thing I'm also incredibly hesitant with, since we are on the topic of gender in general, are gender related surgeries

2019-04-15 05:48:33 UTC  

specifically ones involving genitalia. The complication rate is high and complications are debilitating. The risk just seems to outweigh the gain so drastically.

2019-04-15 05:49:39 UTC  

I've done extensive research personally on this specific topic, and seen more mutilated crotches then I ever thought I would. Ulcers, tears, fistulas, infection, required revisions, loss of all sexual function. It's terrible.

2019-04-15 05:49:55 UTC  

Yeah that's an issue of the doctor being shit

2019-04-15 05:50:07 UTC  

There are surgeries which do go extremely well

2019-04-15 05:50:21 UTC  

However you are right, there are far too many risks

2019-04-15 05:50:22 UTC  

The vast majority are. The most popular, from what I can gather, is from one specific doctor in thailand of all places

2019-04-15 05:50:41 UTC  

Hey the Thai must know their shit