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Yo what's up gamers ๐Ÿ˜Ž

not much i just had to give myself roles to best describe my political ideology

i hope it comes across as i hoped it would

how about you

yeah

anarcho mutualist

literally free market communism

or free market anti capitalism

basically it's the belief that through the free market we can achieve communism iirc

like it's not inherently communist beliefs but rather it sets communism as the end goal

@Darman this explains it well

perhaps ๐Ÿ˜ณ

look i'm not too good at explaining it

but the paper i linked explains it well

o k

yes ๐Ÿ˜Ž

ok so basically the idea is that it's through the unrestricted free market that we can obtain what could be referred to as a "socialist" utopia

like there's no restrictions - no copyrights or any state to hold up corporations

mutualism is anarchy imagined as a series of relationships where no party has power over another

so you could argue that it's not entirely socialist or communist but oh well

oh those

are ancoms

lmao based

"The natural effect of unfettered market competition is socialism. For a short time the innovator receives a large profit, as a reward for being first to the market. Then, as competitors adopt the innovation, competition drives these profits down to zero and the price gravitates toward the new, lower cost of production made possible by this innovation (that price including, of course, the cost of the producerโ€™s maintenance and the amortization of her capital outlays). So in a free market, the cost savings in labor required to produce any given commodity would quickly be socialized in the form of reduced labor cost to purchase it.

Only when the state enforces artificial scarcities, artificial property rights, and barriers to competition, is it possible for a capitalist to appropriate some part of the cost savings as a permanent rent. The capitalist, under these conditions, is enabled to engage in monopoly pricing. That is, rather than being forced by competition to price her goods at the actual cost of production (including her own livelihood), she can target the price to the consumerโ€™s ability to pay."

That's basically it

I did put it in quotation marks ๐Ÿ˜ณ

anyways i only have the communist role because mutualism believes that through the use of an entirely free and unrestricted market without a state we can achieve socialism

it's not communist through practice, but rather as an end

you could say

see I have to agree with you to some degree

it could be argued that communism has to enforce its rules through an authoritarian government

even anarcho communism has to be achieved through some authoritarian means

which is why i call ancoms statists ๐Ÿ˜Ž

that and because they're statists

that's just not very nice :(

look just think of it like this ok

for all intensive purposes i support an entirely free and untrestricted market

understood?

i'm not trying to brainwash you

all i really want is for you to at least understand my ideology and whatnot - even if you disagree

repeating what i say really doesn't mean anything

oh well that's your opinion

also why do you keep calling me a creature?

i don't understand that either

honestly i'm not in the mood to debate this kind of stuff

i don't understand do you seek to insult me by using such a word?

i just see it as rather strange that you call me creature

no i'm really not

i just want to know why you're saying such a word - it confuses me

i mean i'm not complaining i'm genuinely confused lmao

what?

wait wait wait

are you calling me creature because i'm trans?

hey wait there's a socialist role

huh

i didn't notice

ok good for you man

yeah yeah yeah

you know

i've heard all this stuff before

like if you're gonna insult me at least be original

no it really isn't and i frankly don't really care enough to debate

hey i wasn't the one who started this debate

i said "are you calling me creature because i'm trans?"

i do find it funny actually

that this is what you spend your time doing

i won't rise to such silly provocations anyways

i will prove myself to be the more mature individual

i mean you haven't insulted me a bunch

oh dear

let me ask you something okay

no wait i have a question

what do you gain from this?

you aren't changing my mind or my opinion

you aren't offending me

you're not achieving anything from this

what do you seek to gain?

oh a new person

yes mental people can't change minds

thusly you cannot change my mind

meaning you are mental

:^)

@DeathToPedophiles I must say this brexit ordeal really goes to show something

Theresa May is a really shit PM

Yeah a hard brexit is honestly the only option from the beginning

I do like how it's tearing the UK apart - it sets the correct political climate for an upheaval of the current society

And I must say the UK is one of the most authoritarian western states so this will indeed be fun

We do

It's that Theresa May is a shit PM

I wasn't going to talk much more on Brexit in all fairness

I must say there do seem to be quite a bit of auths in this server

Oh dear

Authoritarians

Well it's not inherently bad, but auths are less open to such individual freedoms that I am open to

Like to an authoritarian my views are extremely radical but to a libertarian it is less so

Honestly that is true

Totalitarians are a breed of authoritarian though

Just an extreme version of it

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