quinnn
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Yo what's up gamers ๐
not much i just had to give myself roles to best describe my political ideology
i hope it comes across as i hoped it would
how about you
yeah
anarcho mutualist
literally free market communism
or free market anti capitalism
basically it's the belief that through the free market we can achieve communism iirc
like it's not inherently communist beliefs but rather it sets communism as the end goal
@Darman this explains it well
perhaps ๐ณ
look i'm not too good at explaining it
but the paper i linked explains it well
o k
yes ๐
ok so basically the idea is that it's through the unrestricted free market that we can obtain what could be referred to as a "socialist" utopia
like there's no restrictions - no copyrights or any state to hold up corporations
mutualism is anarchy imagined as a series of relationships where no party has power over another
so you could argue that it's not entirely socialist or communist but oh well
oh those
are ancoms
lmao based
"The natural effect of unfettered market competition is socialism. For a short time the innovator receives a large profit, as a reward for being first to the market. Then, as competitors adopt the innovation, competition drives these profits down to zero and the price gravitates toward the new, lower cost of production made possible by this innovation (that price including, of course, the cost of the producerโs maintenance and the amortization of her capital outlays). So in a free market, the cost savings in labor required to produce any given commodity would quickly be socialized in the form of reduced labor cost to purchase it.
Only when the state enforces artificial scarcities, artificial property rights, and barriers to competition, is it possible for a capitalist to appropriate some part of the cost savings as a permanent rent. The capitalist, under these conditions, is enabled to engage in monopoly pricing. That is, rather than being forced by competition to price her goods at the actual cost of production (including her own livelihood), she can target the price to the consumerโs ability to pay."
That's basically it
k
I did put it in quotation marks ๐ณ
anyways i only have the communist role because mutualism believes that through the use of an entirely free and unrestricted market without a state we can achieve socialism
it's not communist through practice, but rather as an end
you could say
see I have to agree with you to some degree
it could be argued that communism has to enforce its rules through an authoritarian government
even anarcho communism has to be achieved through some authoritarian means
which is why i call ancoms statists ๐
that and because they're statists
that's just not very nice :(
look just think of it like this ok
for all intensive purposes i support an entirely free and untrestricted market
understood?
i'm not trying to brainwash you
all i really want is for you to at least understand my ideology and whatnot - even if you disagree
repeating what i say really doesn't mean anything
oh well that's your opinion
also why do you keep calling me a creature?
i don't understand that either
honestly i'm not in the mood to debate this kind of stuff
i don't understand do you seek to insult me by using such a word?
i just see it as rather strange that you call me creature
no i'm really not
i just want to know why you're saying such a word - it confuses me
i mean i'm not complaining i'm genuinely confused lmao
what?
wait wait wait
are you calling me creature because i'm trans?
hey wait there's a socialist role
huh
i didn't notice
ok good for you man
yeah yeah yeah
you know
i've heard all this stuff before
like if you're gonna insult me at least be original
no it really isn't and i frankly don't really care enough to debate
hey i wasn't the one who started this debate
i said "are you calling me creature because i'm trans?"
i do find it funny actually
that this is what you spend your time doing
i won't rise to such silly provocations anyways
i will prove myself to be the more mature individual
i mean you haven't insulted me a bunch
oh dear
let me ask you something okay
no wait i have a question
what do you gain from this?
you aren't changing my mind or my opinion
you aren't offending me
you're not achieving anything from this
what do you seek to gain?
oh a new person
yes mental people can't change minds
thusly you cannot change my mind
meaning you are mental
:^)
@DeathToPedophiles I must say this brexit ordeal really goes to show something
Theresa May is a really shit PM
Yeah a hard brexit is honestly the only option from the beginning
I do like how it's tearing the UK apart - it sets the correct political climate for an upheaval of the current society
And I must say the UK is one of the most authoritarian western states so this will indeed be fun
We do
It's that Theresa May is a shit PM
I wasn't going to talk much more on Brexit in all fairness
I must say there do seem to be quite a bit of auths in this server
Oh dear
Authoritarians
Well it's not inherently bad, but auths are less open to such individual freedoms that I am open to
Like to an authoritarian my views are extremely radical but to a libertarian it is less so
Honestly that is true
Totalitarians are a breed of authoritarian though
Just an extreme version of it
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