Message from @Cobra Commander

Discord ID: 687736635064057922


2020-03-11 00:36:45 UTC  

I want to die in a car accident after reading that

2020-03-11 14:59:30 UTC  

-1 gender

2020-03-11 16:30:17 UTC  

0 genders +/- 4 genders

2020-03-11 16:37:57 UTC  

Hate to break it to ya... there's only 2 genders

2020-03-11 16:48:55 UTC  

That’s what I said

2020-03-11 16:49:04 UTC  

0 +/- 4

2020-03-11 16:49:12 UTC  

Between -4 and 4 genders

2020-03-11 16:51:22 UTC  

Call me old fashioned, but I believe antimarriage is between a negative man and a woman

2020-03-11 16:52:34 UTC  

Yeah, anti divorce rates have been skyrocketing, where are the anti family values?

2020-03-11 16:54:01 UTC  

The number one cause of teen pregnancy is aborting negative children

2020-03-11 16:54:22 UTC  

Wot

2020-03-11 16:54:43 UTC  

Gay

2020-03-11 16:55:15 UTC  

Who let you back?

2020-03-11 16:55:39 UTC  

It ain't any of your business

2020-03-11 16:56:48 UTC  

-mute @rory 10080 (pending ban for previously documented offenses)

2020-03-11 16:56:48 UTC  

🔇 Muted `GOD#4651` for `1 week`

2020-03-12 04:52:43 UTC  

I can’t feel my mouth

2020-03-12 12:55:32 UTC  

uwu

2020-03-12 17:52:24 UTC  

https://files.catbox.moe/qwtwqt.jpg

2020-03-12 18:59:02 UTC  

This server is kind of a dumpster fire, isn't it?

2020-03-12 18:59:51 UTC  

Yeah, although a particularly shit mod just left so maybe less so now.

2020-03-13 01:11:25 UTC  

hate it when women say cant hit back

2020-03-13 03:44:32 UTC  

No one should hit in the first place >.<

2020-03-13 04:09:16 UTC  

I haven't seen any abortion convos on here that I can remember

2020-03-13 04:09:18 UTC  

Kinda weird

2020-03-13 04:11:16 UTC  

there have been quite a lot but in the general chat

2020-03-13 04:15:59 UTC  

I haven't seen any in general

2020-03-13 04:16:10 UTC  

Hmmm

2020-03-13 04:16:27 UTC  

wait nvm

2020-03-13 04:16:31 UTC  

there's been a lot

2020-03-13 04:16:49 UTC  

but all I remember is something about killing women who get abortions

2020-03-13 04:35:05 UTC  

Has anyone here but me participated in providing an abortion?

2020-03-13 04:35:11 UTC  

Just curious

2020-03-13 04:59:08 UTC  

Hmm

2020-03-13 05:01:30 UTC  

I'm not pro life or pro choice. I'm pro education, the new born baby is technically a clump of cells and it isn't a living person yet. I don't believe we should do abortions in late stages of pregnancy, but we should also do abortions because some people might be victims of rape.

2020-03-13 10:29:51 UTC  

The arbitrary constitution or configuration of cells is not, in itself, sufficient to define what is and is not a property of human life.

2020-03-13 10:39:15 UTC  

What are categorical truths regarding the nature of those cells?
1: They are genetically distinct from both parents; amalgamated, yes, but also distinct through mutation (particularly on the Y chromosome)
2: They self-replicate and possess an individual metabolism

The question should never be "what constitutes life", because by all meaningful definitions even a zygote is "alive"; the question of whether or not it is self-sufficient or even self-aware is irrelevant; neo-natal infants do not develop self-awareness until they are 6-12 months old. Any argument that can justify the termination of a zygote can also be used to rationalize the murder of an infant; the difference is by degrees.

In fact; any argument used to justify abortion on the premise of life-utility or deontological/arbitrary definitions can be used to justify murder.

"A fetus feels no pain until X point in time"
By this rationale it should be moral for me to murder a quadriplegic as long as the killing blow falls below the neck.
"A fetus is not self-aware"
By this rationale it should be morally permissible for me to murder a severely retarded person, or a person in a vegetative state/coma.
"A fetus cannot survive by itself"
By this rationale, as previously stated, it should be morally permissible for me to murder a 1-12 month old child.

2020-03-13 10:41:43 UTC  

The only abortion question that is logically and morally consistent is "If this thing is a burden, why can I not kill it"
Everything else, literally every other argument, is an argument of convenience (which is ironic, because the whole subject, and act of abortion boils down to what is and is not convenient) to distance one's self from that nihilistic reality.

2020-03-13 10:45:57 UTC  

And I think, if framed in such a way, most people would understand that abortion is *wrong*; now the question is then... does that matter? Does it matter if it is categorically wrong? Window dressing the issue to divorce it from this single moral question doesn't change the fact that this is *the* moral question.
"Does it matter if it's wrong?"
In a round-about way, no, not really. But in every significant way, YES, it matters. It matters for the same reason we look down at, and are disgusted by, alcoholics getting liver transplants; it matters for the same reason we feel a grim sort of satisfaction when pedophiles are chemically castrated. People who make self-destructive choices which result in their own annihilation (be that physically or spiritually) are degenerate, in the purest most clinical sense of the word.

2020-03-13 10:50:26 UTC  

Therefore I hold that it is literally true that abortion is categorically immoral, strip away the varnish, gloss and embellishments of illusion and excuse and examine the thing as it is by it's own merits.
A person who has sex, with or without protection, must accept the potential consequences of this action. The same way a person who eats 5 big macs a day must accept obesity as the consequence of their actions. The same way heroin junkie who shares needles must accept AIDS as the consequences of their actions.
I see no reason on earth to legitimize such shameful things or to make excuses for them. Women who get abortions should be looked down on, the same way we look down on anyone who purposefully enters into a state of apoptosis.

There is no such thing as a pregnant virgin.