Message from @qwasi
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Genders*
Cool
I want to die in a car accident after reading that
-1 gender
0 genders +/- 4 genders
Hate to break it to ya... there's only 2 genders
That’s what I said
0 +/- 4
Between -4 and 4 genders
Call me old fashioned, but I believe antimarriage is between a negative man and a woman
Yeah, anti divorce rates have been skyrocketing, where are the anti family values?
The number one cause of teen pregnancy is aborting negative children
Wot
Gay
Who let you back?
It ain't any of your business
🔇 Muted `GOD#4651` for `1 week`
I can’t feel my mouth
uwu
This server is kind of a dumpster fire, isn't it?
Yeah, although a particularly shit mod just left so maybe less so now.
hate it when women say cant hit back
No one should hit in the first place >.<
I haven't seen any abortion convos on here that I can remember
Kinda weird
there have been quite a lot but in the general chat
I haven't seen any in general
Hmmm
wait nvm
there's been a lot
but all I remember is something about killing women who get abortions
Has anyone here but me participated in providing an abortion?
Just curious
Hmm
I'm not pro life or pro choice. I'm pro education, the new born baby is technically a clump of cells and it isn't a living person yet. I don't believe we should do abortions in late stages of pregnancy, but we should also do abortions because some people might be victims of rape.
The arbitrary constitution or configuration of cells is not, in itself, sufficient to define what is and is not a property of human life.
What are categorical truths regarding the nature of those cells?
1: They are genetically distinct from both parents; amalgamated, yes, but also distinct through mutation (particularly on the Y chromosome)
2: They self-replicate and possess an individual metabolism
The question should never be "what constitutes life", because by all meaningful definitions even a zygote is "alive"; the question of whether or not it is self-sufficient or even self-aware is irrelevant; neo-natal infants do not develop self-awareness until they are 6-12 months old. Any argument that can justify the termination of a zygote can also be used to rationalize the murder of an infant; the difference is by degrees.
In fact; any argument used to justify abortion on the premise of life-utility or deontological/arbitrary definitions can be used to justify murder.
"A fetus feels no pain until X point in time"
By this rationale it should be moral for me to murder a quadriplegic as long as the killing blow falls below the neck.
"A fetus is not self-aware"
By this rationale it should be morally permissible for me to murder a severely retarded person, or a person in a vegetative state/coma.
"A fetus cannot survive by itself"
By this rationale, as previously stated, it should be morally permissible for me to murder a 1-12 month old child.
The only abortion question that is logically and morally consistent is "If this thing is a burden, why can I not kill it"
Everything else, literally every other argument, is an argument of convenience (which is ironic, because the whole subject, and act of abortion boils down to what is and is not convenient) to distance one's self from that nihilistic reality.