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Fight me god damn it

Even if the abortion is to preserve her own life?

I am abhor abortion but I participate in performing them when they are toxic to the mother's continued existence.

I provide drugs toxic to the fetus to save a woman's life.

Unless the woman explicitly says otherwise, I will maintain an existent life over a potential one.

That's a completely different set of circumstances and I think it's reductive and Orwellian to describe them in the same breathe.
Murder is wrong, but if separating a retarded twin from his functional conjoined counterpart would kill the retard, even basic act-utility would say "go for it";

Although I would say that under at least some circumstances it would be better to let both the mother and the fetus die; clearly natural selection has spoken.

Or to put it succinctly, I don't think it's right or fair to present some iteration of the trolley problem; of course it would be morally correct to let.. say... a thousand homeless people die to save the life of an army general. Of course it would be morally right to let a hundred thousand kittens burn up to save one orphan from a burning building.
I think the two issues are mutually exclusive. Abortion, full stop; is morally different from medically necessary abortions. I think both issues need their own conversation.

Furries and women who get abortions should be treated the same way

But the punishment should be death for getting an abortiona and death for being a furry

Furries are gay

Abortion is a topic that is especially rife with false equivalencies. Imagine likening necessary abortions with ones done out of convenience.

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What did I say that was false? @Cobra Commander

That was in response to DrYuriMom, not you

"Necesary abortion"

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Abortions rule

More abortions please.

Yes fetus deletus

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Many people make that false equivalence, Cobra

I was quite sincere when I was describing my moral difficulties as I decided what i could participate in and what i would not

I understood what you were saying, yeah.

It's those who will literally just group all abortions together and say I'm all for it, kill the kid and what not. And on the opposing side you have any abortion at all makes you evil.

A patient who has an ectopic pregnancy which is toxic and must be ended or both fetus and mother die. A mother with cancer which needs immediate treatment with radiation and chemo in order to have a chance to live. Lots of situations like that in medicine. I deal with them.

The extremes on both ends make me batty

Now I also don't like abortions at all, and I'd figure most people don't, but if there's something with the pregnancy that threatens the mom's life then abortion should absolutely be on the table if it's necessary.

I doubt people are going to always want to go down with the baby.

Furries are hay

Ya think

lol

I said hay

U mean gay

But ik what you meant

both

I guess

they are weird

Gender is just a spook