Message from @lemonsaw

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2019-05-02 00:47:19 UTC  

Does that means intelligence cannot be genetic?

2019-05-02 00:47:25 UTC  

The evidence is out there, tons of studies done on environmental effects on IQ.
Now, I did find that genes can affect IQ a lot... especially in adults.
The extent of this is not well known to me, but the problem lies in racist graphs pushing an agenda of anti-blacks by ignoring all of the environmental evidence.

2019-05-02 00:47:54 UTC  

So we accept there is a genetic factor and a environmental one

2019-05-02 00:47:57 UTC  

Studies agree about 60-80% of IQ is determined by genes once your brain is developed, about 27 years and older.

2019-05-02 00:48:06 UTC  

Its definitely both.

2019-05-02 00:48:10 UTC  

Could you link me to studies

2019-05-02 00:48:14 UTC  

Of course.

2019-05-02 00:48:29 UTC  

That's pretty much the whole discussion, how much percent is genetic

2019-05-02 00:49:16 UTC  

And if it is 60-80%, that would mean some ethnicity are genetically less intelligent on average

2019-05-02 00:50:11 UTC  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14717631

https://medcraveonline.com/JNSK/JNSK-01-00023
This is the article I was reading from a consultant neurosurgeon in India named Arun Oommen.

He linked the percentage evidence to the first link I provided.

2019-05-02 00:50:25 UTC  

Which didn't demonstrate a percent.

2019-05-02 00:51:11 UTC  

Indeed

2019-05-02 00:51:25 UTC  

It looks like theyre trying to identify genes responsible for intelligence

2019-05-02 00:51:33 UTC  

Also 60-80% in adult years is all based on genes. Now what percent of that 60-80 is affected by the changes in ethnicity. That we don't know, and we can't assume that ethnicity has such a strong effect on our genetic intelligence.

2019-05-02 00:51:34 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-05-02 00:51:55 UTC  

Without proper evidence we're making stuff up.

2019-05-02 00:52:07 UTC  

except you dont realize

2019-05-02 00:52:10 UTC  

that the higher your IQ is

2019-05-02 00:52:15 UTC  

the more likely you are gonna develop mental illness

2019-05-02 00:52:34 UTC  

Einstein had huge short-term memory loss and needed a secretary to write down everything he wrote

2019-05-02 00:52:34 UTC  

Well if it's 70% genetic then the current difference in IQ couldn't be explained with environment

2019-05-02 00:52:45 UTC  

It would be largely genetic too

2019-05-02 00:52:57 UTC  

There's a threshold where too much IQ can be bad for you

2019-05-02 00:53:02 UTC  

probably because brain cant handle the 200 IQ

2019-05-02 00:53:03 UTC  

or w/e

2019-05-02 00:53:57 UTC  

Totally. However, how much of that 70% is directly from you being black or white? What effect does your ethnicity have on your genetic intelligence. Zero research on this.
People will take the fact that genetics account for about 70% of IQ and then run off with it throwing out statements with zero context.

2019-05-02 00:54:18 UTC  

Skin color doesn't affect IQ at all.

2019-05-02 00:54:24 UTC  

Your brain doesn't develop extra melanin

2019-05-02 00:54:40 UTC  

Race is a bullshit category

2019-05-02 00:54:53 UTC  

No but some skin color are correlated with a smarter brain

2019-05-02 00:54:56 UTC  

that would be the claim

2019-05-02 00:55:02 UTC  

If you want to look at IQ and genes, look at ancestry.

2019-05-02 00:55:11 UTC  

@lemonsaw and certain political groups of people have higher IQ's

2019-05-02 00:55:13 UTC  

ironically

2019-05-02 00:55:18 UTC  

the only problem with extra melanin in your body

2019-05-02 00:55:19 UTC  

Libertarians have the highest IQ's

2019-05-02 00:55:20 UTC  

is a lack of vitamin D

2019-05-02 00:55:25 UTC  

>Libertarians have the highest IQ

2019-05-02 00:55:30 UTC  

What's the relevance?

2019-05-02 00:55:34 UTC  

and therefore the most mentally ill

2019-05-02 00:55:36 UTC  

It's a correlation