Message from @lemonsaw

Discord ID: 573315443025117195


2019-05-02 01:09:00 UTC  

Not generally, statistically.

2019-05-02 01:09:04 UTC  

Yes true

2019-05-02 01:09:13 UTC  

Libertarians also have higher IQ's

2019-05-02 01:09:18 UTC  

than any other political group

2019-05-02 01:09:22 UTC  

You can't use race sometimes and deny it when you don't like it

2019-05-02 01:09:31 UTC  

How is that relevant?

2019-05-02 01:09:48 UTC  

Yes you can, I deny race as a scientific category

2019-05-02 01:09:55 UTC  

while also admitting it does exsist as a political group

2019-05-02 01:10:01 UTC  

and a descriptive group

2019-05-02 01:10:04 UTC  

Like red heads

2019-05-02 01:10:10 UTC  

or blondes

2019-05-02 01:10:15 UTC  

Just throwing that out there. I'm going to continue arguing as though I believe in the current construct of races, but I was stating that historically we didn't consider races as color of skin and such until the late 1700s.

2019-05-02 01:10:17 UTC  

or people with blue eyes

2019-05-02 01:10:20 UTC  

Its a fairly new idea.

2019-05-02 01:10:26 UTC  

In the history of the world.

2019-05-02 01:10:27 UTC  

they serve utility with regards to the description of people

2019-05-02 01:10:30 UTC  

and so does race

2019-05-02 01:10:35 UTC  

Yews

2019-05-02 01:10:46 UTC  

Im just claiming

2019-05-02 01:10:48 UTC  

but it serves very little utility scientifically speaking, if not any.

2019-05-02 01:10:53 UTC  

Sure

2019-05-02 01:10:57 UTC  

I can accept that

2019-05-02 01:11:18 UTC  

You can define race as broadly or as small as you want

2019-05-02 01:11:18 UTC  

GG @Yiddlemethisgoyim, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-05-02 01:11:26 UTC  

The problem is that the statistics about black people having lower IQs don't account for any sort of genetic, environmental, or additional factors. There is zero context.

2019-05-02 01:11:36 UTC  

It doesn't necissarily prove anything.

2019-05-02 01:11:39 UTC  

But then once again you know I'll come back to my earlier argument

2019-05-02 01:11:39 UTC  

GG @lemonsaw, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-05-02 01:11:48 UTC  

you use race when you need it

2019-05-02 01:11:57 UTC  

but deny it when you don't like the facts

2019-05-02 01:11:58 UTC  

Yes, when it serves utility.

2019-05-02 01:12:16 UTC  

I said scientifically speaking it doesn't serve any.

2019-05-02 01:12:27 UTC  

Who are you talking to lemon.

2019-05-02 01:12:39 UTC  

"Black people" are incredibly different

2019-05-02 01:12:44 UTC  

You give an advantage to black people in America because statistically they are not treating fairly

2019-05-02 01:12:49 UTC  

Exactly

2019-05-02 01:12:52 UTC  

But we find that this same group of people

2019-05-02 01:12:56 UTC  

Has a lower IQ in general

2019-05-02 01:13:02 UTC  

Now we can't use race

2019-05-02 01:13:07 UTC  

It's too "broad"

2019-05-02 01:13:11 UTC  

Why?