Message from @lemonsaw

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2019-05-02 01:06:44 UTC  

And it seems some race have higher IQ

2019-05-02 01:06:45 UTC  

Not anthropologists

2019-05-02 01:06:52 UTC  

not biologists.

2019-05-02 01:07:02 UTC  

Well most people accept the concept of race

2019-05-02 01:07:16 UTC  

doesn't make it useful nor scientifically true

2019-05-02 01:07:29 UTC  

Why is it used in affirmative action?

2019-05-02 01:07:40 UTC  

Because its a political class of people who are and were oppressed

2019-05-02 01:07:52 UTC  

its not practical to look at their ancestry

2019-05-02 01:08:00 UTC  

on an individual basis.

2019-05-02 01:08:15 UTC  

Race wasn't even considered as color of skin until 1779 when Blumenbach proposed them in The Anthropological Treatises of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach.

2019-05-02 01:08:28 UTC  

Its all a social construct.

2019-05-02 01:08:35 UTC  

What we know is that generally, black people were and are treated unfairly in America.

2019-05-02 01:08:40 UTC  

Ok

2019-05-02 01:08:41 UTC  

Especially with regards to education

2019-05-02 01:08:49 UTC  

We also know that generally, black people have lower IQ

2019-05-02 01:08:52 UTC  

Schools in black area's will just be worst by virtue of having less funding

2019-05-02 01:09:00 UTC  

Not generally, statistically.

2019-05-02 01:09:04 UTC  

Yes true

2019-05-02 01:09:13 UTC  

Libertarians also have higher IQ's

2019-05-02 01:09:18 UTC  

than any other political group

2019-05-02 01:09:22 UTC  

You can't use race sometimes and deny it when you don't like it

2019-05-02 01:09:31 UTC  

How is that relevant?

2019-05-02 01:09:48 UTC  

Yes you can, I deny race as a scientific category

2019-05-02 01:09:55 UTC  

while also admitting it does exsist as a political group

2019-05-02 01:10:01 UTC  

and a descriptive group

2019-05-02 01:10:04 UTC  

Like red heads

2019-05-02 01:10:10 UTC  

or blondes

2019-05-02 01:10:15 UTC  

Just throwing that out there. I'm going to continue arguing as though I believe in the current construct of races, but I was stating that historically we didn't consider races as color of skin and such until the late 1700s.

2019-05-02 01:10:17 UTC  

or people with blue eyes

2019-05-02 01:10:20 UTC  

Its a fairly new idea.

2019-05-02 01:10:26 UTC  

In the history of the world.

2019-05-02 01:10:27 UTC  

they serve utility with regards to the description of people

2019-05-02 01:10:30 UTC  

and so does race

2019-05-02 01:10:35 UTC  

Yews

2019-05-02 01:10:46 UTC  

Im just claiming

2019-05-02 01:10:48 UTC  

but it serves very little utility scientifically speaking, if not any.

2019-05-02 01:10:53 UTC  

Sure

2019-05-02 01:10:57 UTC  

I can accept that

2019-05-02 01:11:18 UTC  

You can define race as broadly or as small as you want

2019-05-02 01:11:18 UTC  

GG @Yiddlemethisgoyim, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-05-02 01:11:26 UTC  

The problem is that the statistics about black people having lower IQs don't account for any sort of genetic, environmental, or additional factors. There is zero context.