Message from @Darman

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2019-05-21 06:33:37 UTC  

I certainly think it's a mix of both

2019-05-21 06:36:09 UTC  

At the end of the day, I don't want to make a false dilemma fallacy but either there are socioeconomical factors or it's caused by biological factors

2019-05-21 06:36:38 UTC  

Or a mix

2019-05-21 06:37:06 UTC  

If you deny all environmental factors, then just face it and argue the genetic argument

2019-05-21 06:37:49 UTC  

Politicians take some of the blame as well

2019-05-21 06:37:52 UTC  

From both parties

2019-05-21 11:04:40 UTC  

There is no genetic argument though @lemonsaw

2019-05-21 11:05:17 UTC  

Saying that someone ends up in prison because of their race is entirely illogical when you try and argue it from a genetic standpoint

2019-05-21 11:06:07 UTC  

There have been multiple studies which have shown there is more genetic variation within racial groups than between making races a biologically invalid concept

2019-05-21 17:06:15 UTC  

Lol of course there is no biases

2019-05-21 17:06:43 UTC  

Blacks are in prison more becuase they are more likely to commit crime

2019-05-21 17:07:13 UTC  

To say otherwise is a farse

2019-05-21 17:08:00 UTC  

Just look at any data from America or South Africa when it comes to any violent crime

2019-05-21 17:12:46 UTC  

"But muh socio econamic factors" Rich black commit more crime than poor whites. Realllymakesyouthink

2019-05-21 20:34:04 UTC  

not sure where to put this so ill put it here

2019-05-21 20:34:27 UTC  

non-citizens commit 42% of federal crimes despite being 7% of the population

2019-05-21 20:48:45 UTC  

Bullshit statistics

2019-05-21 20:48:56 UTC  

Being illegal is a federal crime

2019-05-21 20:49:00 UTC  

It's a no brainer

2019-05-21 20:51:57 UTC  

non-citizens

2019-05-21 20:52:10 UTC  

people here legally but not citizens

2019-05-21 20:52:15 UTC  

im guessing

2019-05-21 23:45:30 UTC  

L

2019-05-21 23:49:22 UTC  

@Darman you got a source for that stat?

2019-05-21 23:49:47 UTC  

@Techpriest Being a non citizen is nowhere near the same as being an illegal

2019-05-21 23:50:04 UTC  

Unless you're trying to say being an immigrant is illegal?

2019-05-21 23:52:57 UTC  

@The Lemon Hey! It's my favourite Anti-Centrist!

2019-05-21 23:54:01 UTC  

Lol ofc you watch jreg too

2019-05-21 23:54:19 UTC  

He's channel is hilarious ngl

2019-05-21 23:55:06 UTC  

yea my ass

2019-05-21 23:55:08 UTC  

He's ape-political

2019-05-22 01:27:15 UTC  

@The Lemon How exactly can you explain that they commit more crimes? Many people in here are denying the socioeconomical effect. If it isn't their environment, it has to be inherent to them and people should face their position.

2019-05-22 01:38:53 UTC  

it's like a federal study or something like that

2019-05-22 01:38:57 UTC  

i cant find it right now

2019-05-22 06:09:39 UTC  

They can't. They are in denial

2019-05-22 08:33:00 UTC  

@Darman sure man get back to me when you do find it

2019-05-22 08:33:13 UTC  

(which I'm guessing will be never)

2019-05-22 08:33:43 UTC  

@lemonsaw But the point is it isn't inherent to them and it IS to do with their environments

2019-05-22 08:34:19 UTC  

Every single "study" I've seen, which always just turns out to be a bunch of statistics without an actual study, is just that

2019-05-22 08:35:11 UTC  

Raw statistics which havent been controlled for education levels, household income, family stability, neighbourhood etc. etc.