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2018-12-04 17:35:25 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Bit of a generalisation right there

2018-12-04 17:39:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Imo nationalisation is a good idea in a lot of sectors like health care and rail but it when you try to apply it to a sector that a free market would work in, that's when it goes wrong

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2018-12-04 17:48:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

You implied it

2018-12-04 19:58:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I mean taking an industry into government control and having it controlled by the state

2018-12-04 19:58:40 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Like the NHS in the UK

2018-12-04 20:13:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Not in trains

2018-12-04 20:13:05 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

For example

2018-12-04 20:13:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

If I want to get from London to reading on the british "free market" rail system

2018-12-04 20:13:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

How many options of train company do I have

2018-12-04 20:13:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

The answer is one, I can only go on south western trains

2018-12-04 20:13:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Which are notorious for ridiculously high ticket prices and Rampant delays all the time

2018-12-04 20:14:30 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But there's no possibility for a competitor to come in and take their place because there's only one train track and they own all of the trains on it

2018-12-04 20:15:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

So unless someone was to come and build new train tracks all around the UK (which would be impossibly expensive) SWT are always going to have a monopoly on the trains in that part of the country

2018-12-04 20:15:40 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

So even if you do have a "free market" there's going to be a natural monopoly

2018-12-04 20:16:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Therefore in this scenario its better to have a state owned monopoly where the people controlling it have to answer to the voting population rather than a company which owns the monopoly which cant be ousted by the people and is only trying to make profit

2018-12-04 20:16:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Obviously this only works in specific scenarios

2018-12-04 20:17:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Aka why I didn't say it works all the time

2018-12-04 20:17:20 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

It dosen't

2018-12-04 20:17:25 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

And that's why communism fails

2018-12-04 20:17:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Because communism tries to apply that everywhere

2018-12-04 20:17:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But in sectors like water rail and healthcare nationalization can work better

2018-12-04 20:18:54 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Nationalization works in some areas, a free market works better in others

2018-12-04 20:19:55 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You can't hold a private monopoly accountable in that situation

2018-12-04 20:20:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Unless you boycott the trains

2018-12-04 20:20:08 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But in that case millions of commuters can't get around

2018-12-04 20:20:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Who?

2018-12-04 20:20:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Also what grounds do you have to sue them

2018-12-04 20:20:44 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

It's not like they intentionally set up a monopoly

2018-12-04 20:20:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Its the nature of the rail industry

2018-12-04 20:21:14 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Gov regulations can't stop a monopoly in that sector

2018-12-04 20:21:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

As I said

2018-12-04 20:21:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

YEah

2018-12-04 20:21:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Those are examples where a free market works

2018-12-04 20:21:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

And nationalization

2018-12-04 20:21:59 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But I'm talking about rail

2018-12-04 20:22:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Did you even read what I said

2018-12-04 20:22:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I said nationalization only works in specific scenarios like heathcare and rail

2018-12-04 21:51:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

I'm just saying that's what it sounded like you were saying

2018-12-04 21:51:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Even if you didn't mean it

2018-12-04 21:51:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

I mean that's only partly true

2018-12-04 21:52:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

It's become more equal in recent years

2018-12-04 21:52:26 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

But I'll agree women still have the worse time

2018-12-04 21:52:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

But men often don't get the attention they deserve

2018-12-04 21:53:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Like 3/4 of suicides being men

2018-12-04 21:53:40 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Prostate cancer getting a fraction of the funding for research that breast cancer gets

2018-12-04 21:53:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Emotional openness and toxic masculinity

2018-12-05 21:31:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

?

2018-12-05 22:00:05 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

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2018-12-06 20:01:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

@TheNobody Heard of female genital mutilation?

2018-12-06 20:01:26 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Massive problem

2018-12-06 20:01:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Especially in africa

2018-12-06 20:02:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Also FGM is worse than circumcision

2018-12-06 20:04:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Depends on the country

2018-12-06 20:04:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Circumcision only happens with Jews and American people

2018-12-06 20:04:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

FGM is a huge problem in a lot of countries

2018-12-06 20:04:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

Not so much in the west though

2018-12-06 20:04:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

No its not

2018-12-08 16:52:26 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #gender-issues]  

it it gay to have balls?

2018-12-08 16:52:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

I mean there isn't really anymore

2018-12-08 16:53:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

But there was institutionalised racism in the past which has modern day implications

2018-12-13 21:49:05 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Don't think this stuff gets talked about enough or the Chinese gov gets the criticism it deserves in the west

I'm just a liberal cuck

2018-12-15 09:51:08 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Fuck off

2018-12-15 09:51:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Literally there are so many cry babies in the west who are like "ohh nooooo the Muslims are replacing us and destroying our culture" while it's completely not true

2018-12-15 09:52:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

When for the Uighur Muslims in China

2018-12-15 09:52:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

It's called terrorism and extremism (and is illegal) to participate in their culture

2018-12-15 09:52:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

1 million of them have been sent to Co centration camps

2018-12-15 09:53:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Han Chinese are being encouraged to move to the region WITH THE EXPRESS PURPOSE of out populating the indigenous Uighur

2018-12-15 09:54:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And then people claim us white people are "being replaced"

2018-12-15 09:54:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Grow up

2018-12-15 09:54:48 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

There's a difference between (what admittedly could be too much) immigration and cultural genocide

2018-12-15 14:00:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

@Deleted User I live in London so fuck right off with you're "I live in the UK I know better than you" narrative. Also how the fuck is sharia law forced upon us? No part of sharia law is within the UK's law...

2018-12-15 14:01:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And there are some areas with a lot of muslims but it's been like that for decades and decades now because we've had immigration to this country for quite a while now

2018-12-15 14:01:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And they are still a minority its not like this wave of immigration is going to change that

2018-12-15 14:02:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And we don't have thousands of rape cases

2018-12-15 14:03:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Sure there are cases like the rotheram scandal and they're terrible don't get me wrong but its not like thats thousands of cases like you're trying to suggest

2018-12-15 14:03:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Its not like that's a large proportion of the number of muslims in the uk that are a part of that

2018-12-15 14:04:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Also if we're going to use a small number of rapists to taint an entire religion then can I use priests that fuck the altar boys to say that we should wage against christiantiy? There are some churches etc, I've been to where they literally have to have separate toilets for men and boys because they're so worried about kiddy fiddlers.

2018-12-15 14:05:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

You're logic of "there are a few bad Muslims therefore we should get rid of them all" just makes no sense

2018-12-15 14:08:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And don't even get me started on people trying to use terrorism to justify not wanting Muslims

2018-12-15 14:08:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

There have been no terror attacks in at least the last year and a half that resulted in a death in the UK

2018-12-15 14:08:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

While the number of muslims has stayed the same if not increased

2018-12-15 14:09:30 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

Yea but my point its a small minority of muslims that do terrible shit like that

2018-12-15 14:09:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And there are a small minority of christians who do terrible shit like that

2018-12-15 14:10:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

And a small minority of every fucking race and culture that do that because fun fact, the colour of your skin dosen't make you more or less likely to rape someone

2018-12-15 14:10:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

2.66 million

2018-12-15 14:10:18 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

In a country of 66 million

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