Message from @Tyberius D
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He has policies
Founding Father Alexander Hamilton had a quote
About why he chose Jefferson (who he hated) over Burr
"Jefferson has beliefs, Burr has none"
Was Jefferson an asshole? Yes, but he's an asshole with a plan
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) your understanding of American history is very weird. Jefferson was one of the best people to ever serve as US president, even if it was a bit of a hypocrite when it came to slavery
@Tyberius D That's what I mean
Jefferson was an asshole
But a good President
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) how so?
Guy raped his slave, enslaved his bastard mixed children and was an utter twat towards people like Hamilton
Jefferson vs Adams in 1800 was a case of an asshole (Jeffie boy) vs a corrupt person (Adams) @Tyberius D
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) dude, Hamilton got in a fight with almost everyone he talked to!
Jefferson seems like one of those people that would hold a grudge and exact vengence (like Hamilton but smarter)
Basically, Jeffie boy is old-school Tory, Hammie is Labour
Don't judge my nicknames for them XD
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) I would flip the parties
@Tyberius D Nah, the Labour Party is mainly about being loud enough to be noticed. The old-school Tories are about sliding your way to power
Who the fuck cared about May befote he contested for leader?
Same with Cameron
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) granted that the political parties work a little different over here, but by policy you would want to flip them.
Nah, by the way they get noticed @Tyberius D
Personality
Jefferson was born arrogant
Hamilton grew arrogant
Also, isn't the Jeffersonian idea of States having freedom more Republican?
Correct me if I'm wrong
@TheBritishGamer β€π (Meh) I don't care for your argument on personality, you have jackasses on both sides of the aisle, in both countries.
Jefferson to a large degree was a social liberal, especially considering he hated the Christians. To large degree he was a constitutionalist, until the Louisiana purchase where reality smacked him upside the head. Economically he was pretty conservative, he would probably be labeled a libertarian today.
Hamilton was indeed a federalist, but also was the nation's real first economist.
The problem is political parties don't line up the way they used to. A big government, economic conservative and a deist, protectionist don't really have a place in our modern political theory.
Hey, I think he was a great President
But, like all the Founding Fathers tbh, a cunt
Alright, <@!506225906910494731> has been warned for '**Posted an invite**'.
why does this remind me of OrwellΒ΄s animal farm?
@McBacoon That is from Animal Farm
wasnt this meme from like some painting?
```"Brother, May I Have Some Oats" is a copypasta expression associated with a painting of two pigs, which is commonly circulated on 4chan's /s4s/ and /r9k/ boards where it is often referred to as "oatposting."```
```with a painting of two pigs```
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