US has had growth for almost 10 years straight. How long do you think it will continue?

Can't fix anything here, moving on

"Gender issues"
Not a lot to deal with here.

My personal politics don't align well with Trump. He has proven decently capable to get some things he wants done, but being a total asshole has hurt him. Republicans should have sweeped 2018, but Trump and the populist's combativeness is driving people away.

I honestly don't know how to bridge that gap in understanding

17 years, 21.7 trillion in the hole. GDP is an assessment of the total economic activity of the country.
National debt and spending does effect the economy, but the debt far less so than the spending.

How do your voter blocs line up with the Republicans

I think that idea is a sign we have fucked up priorities

Seeing far more ideology than pragmatism here.

What about the wage gap?

Depends on the criteria. Overall there is, 0.81 female to 1.00 male.
However, peer to peer it barely registers (plus or minus 3 cents.)
Problem is gender dominated employment such as farming, construction, and such.
When women want to do the hard, risky work I will give them some their right to bitch.
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat37.htm

Agree on the racial mindset. Problem for the Blacks was slavery and Jim Crowe, every other group had a generation or two that did the hard labor and left a good life for their children. Blacks didn't get that opportunity until the 70s (and some still don't.) However, I will admit some don't seem like they are willing to make that transition.

Glad some one does

Love when reality smacks people in the face!
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-12-03/a-wall-street-rule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost?__twitter_impression=true

How does the voter blocks line up with your interests?

There's always an exception to the rule.

You must love your populists cohorts btw

Did I say there were not problems anymore?

Me

Yes

It's my political voter bloc assessment. As far as sources for why I think these voter blocs are the way they, I go mainly by exit polls which I have pulled from NYT, CNN, and FOX (take them all with a bag of salt) Here's the files:

lol

Sexual Dimorphism is a thing.

Part that pisses me off is the ladies scream bloody murder about how they have it so bad, yet them seem to have no problem wraping gents around their finger.

@The Lemon always

?rank centrist

I'm not so eager on that. Infrastructure sure, health care has issues.

No, stop trying to read between the lines.

?rank centrist

?rank Atheist

?rank centrist

Do I have to write a fucking book on every post so people don't draw conclusions that are not mentioned, implyed, or referenced?

Sadly biology makes us horny bastards, and yes it a great way to control us. Wish that wasn't true, but self control is hard for most folks.


Don't give me this crap about everything being loaded against you. I don't have any rights that you don't, and the world isn't fair to anyone!

EVERYONE has challenges, just ask any group of people...

Can I discuss this with you later? I happen to be a bit pissy at the moment (nothing you did) and don't want to throw the hate hammer by accident.

For when I return, please give me your definition of "toxic masculinity."

Sure thing, I'm already coming down.

I wouldn't argue that's toxic, just traditional. I do think men need some form of self-identity, but there are a number of things there that I don't think have to be on that list.

I guess TM doesn't effect me because I have no problem doing things I want. I'm usually pretty happy to have a reason to tell someone to shove it.

Side note, if there is TM then I think there is also a Toxic Feminity. Great example, men can sleep around but the ladies shouldn't. Either we should all be able to sleep around or should exercise restraint.

It used to bother me, but that when I could count my partners on one hand. After I got to a 2nd hand that attitude changed for me.

Doesn't matter much though, only ladies that like me now outweigh me.

You guys have way too much belief in the free market. Might want to give US history from 1870 to 1910 a look.

It is a bit left biased

Have to ask that as well

Yeah, he takes free market principles to the point where it turns against itself. Monopolies are awful

I wouldn't call those rights, privileges for sure but we gents have a few of our own.

There are jobs we can do that women have serious trouble with (hard labor.) We have no old stigmas slowing is down.

I stated the draft point eariler, but the rape laws could use a review.

What acts are we talking about exactly?

Your friend must be attractive, non of that has happened to me

I am truly amazed none if us has busted out the hate engine. Worse I have seen is trolls and a NAZI

He wasn't the person

Saw the jk. What's on today's list?

Was wondering what today 's discussion would be.

How so?

Your definition of rights must be very vague

agw? I respect my fellow ecogeeks, but they don't really know how to do math.

Join us for our next debate where we will discuss: "Is the sky blue?"

Sanity is more common than people think

I bet they spilt

Agw?

You are fucking high

It's not

It won't be a free market, it will be a regulated market.

Oh, I love it. Saved

https://8values.github.io

That's an odd combo. Had to update mine

Hell, I get vape pens shipped from Colorado

Posh is strictly British in my experience

I ment just the term... 🙄

Your info is bad, World Birth rates are dropping through the floor

Japan has already retooled their economy to work with little labor, Average age 55!

https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/idb/informationGateway.php

Well, I have a friend who has been doing this since 2002. He showed be the data vs the old predictions and all the predictions have been wrong. Birth rates across the world are decreasing, and in the last 10 years they have really fell (almost 2 children per family less in 10 years!)

Here's one of the biggest changes

He is a lier, who doesn't understand an ounce of history, who cannot put aside his ego or greed, that is wrecking the American hegemony, and doesn't have a plan.

If he had the skill, knowledge, and experience I might give you that.

What?

Pretty sure that's not real, looked for the article this morning

China is up shit Creek.

The ladies do tend to be more pacifist than their male counter parts (however that maybe because vets are far more likely to vote for war than not civilians.)

@NobleBeing you have data for that?

1) Everyone is a net taker when we have a $550B deficit.

2) The level of misogyny here is amazing.

@McBacoon holy fuck are you serious? How do you think we got almost $22T in the hole without everyone being takers?

That's valid, but if you factor in just net benefits 90% of folks are provides.

If we are counting direct benefits yes. If you start factoring in roads, education, ect everyone is a net taker.

The boomers know they can retire and pass the bill to X and Y because if we take away SS we would have to shoot everyone over 60.

@TheNobody seeing the conversation of the last hour. Sam strikes me as the one with more sanity (and I hate feminists.)

Seriously dude, you're a absolutely self-absorbed asshole.

No, Social Security

I personally have never voted for one. The country does because boomers are the largest ACTIVE voter Bloc since 1980.

Sam, probably should give up here, it's pointless.

Putting my vote in for selfish over stupid, but it's not far off.

@TheNobody I didn't post the point because Sam already smacked you with it. No point of being in a conversation if there is no exchange. Just posted my thoughts for the record.

@@TheNobody I didn't White Knight shit, I nor declared I won. I just stated that you are incredibly self-absorbed, which you continue to demonstrate by being angry at the fact that I don't agree with you.

Seriously I have yet to see you be respectful or kind to a single person you disagree with. It's like talking to that orange fuck face Trump.

@Sanantha yeah, not going to side with you on your abortion arguments. Using the logic of a fetus isn't a person could be used against children.

And then lost the house because he is a wanker

Everyone

@Kenpachi so he is just like every other President? Gee, wish other folks could see that.

I shot at Sam for having dumb abortion arguments, but sure, white knight

@beyond_gravity gained 2 seats when 10 states he won were on the table (most up for reelection were democrats.) Both states we're heavily conservative.

Damn, very close to mine

"MGTOW and still like women" 😂