Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2020-03-10 13:33:14 UTC  

imagine taxing the rich

2020-03-10 14:44:44 UTC  

They are people too, they need to be taxed

2020-03-10 14:44:49 UTC  

Like everyone else

2020-03-10 22:57:59 UTC  

I'm sure SINT will poo poo this, but I'll post it

Hey can any ancap explain to me how money would work if there would be no government to print it or anyone to regulate illegal printing.

Just curious thats all.

2020-03-10 23:52:02 UTC  

GG @ᴏᴠᴇʀꜱᴇᴇʀ ꜱᴛʀᴀꜱꜱᴇʀ, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-03-10 23:52:04 UTC  

Shoot anyone with to much money

2020-03-10 23:52:04 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 15!

2020-03-10 23:52:52 UTC  

Trade one of your child slaves for a 7.62 and blow their fucking head off

2020-03-10 23:54:21 UTC  

But do it from a distance, don’t get to close to their property or everyone else will blow your fucking skull in for tresspassing

2020-03-10 23:56:25 UTC  

Remember

2020-03-10 23:56:57 UTC  

If any of his property gets on your property thats a violation of the NAP

2020-03-11 03:15:31 UTC  

Uh careful with the violence and child slave talk

2020-03-11 08:31:49 UTC  

@ᴏᴠᴇʀꜱᴇᴇʀ ꜱᴛʀᴀꜱꜱᴇʀ I’m not ancap but banks would print their own money and target fraud via themselves - it’s like what the treasury does but the independent note issuers will conduct these operations themselves. It’s called free banking, I do support free banking to a large extent however I’m not exactly an anarchist so I don’t support competitive note issuing.

2020-03-11 13:59:01 UTC  

That would devalue the currency though

2020-03-11 14:00:38 UTC  

What would be gained by that?

2020-03-11 14:00:58 UTC  

Like it’s just the same system except no control over monetary policy

2020-03-11 14:15:19 UTC  

There’s a lot to be gained.

2020-03-11 14:15:38 UTC  

I.e we stop/reduce the business cycle among other things.

2020-03-11 14:32:27 UTC  

Doesn’t the business cycle argue that booms are started in part by an over-expansion of credit, which leads to a market correction?

2020-03-11 14:56:08 UTC  

A business cycle occurs when the market rate of interest falls below the natural rate of interest. A boom is created via this then an eventual bust.

2020-03-11 15:02:20 UTC  

Ok, so how does taking monetary policy out of the government’s hands prevent interest rates from falling below the natural interest rate?

2020-03-11 15:19:48 UTC  

Because the market rate will now be uninfluenced, it will follow the natural rate.

2020-03-11 15:23:31 UTC  

The natural rate of interest is the rate in which time preferences are equilibrated, savings and investments are allocated effectively. This rate is existing without the central bank’s intervention.

2020-03-11 15:31:21 UTC  

Is that what happened before the Federal Reserve existed?

2020-03-11 16:16:37 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ except any nation that does have central banking can manipulate your currency, so that’s fun

2020-03-11 16:16:46 UTC  

And you have no way to combat hyperinflation

2020-03-11 16:18:53 UTC  

And if you don’t have a gold standard you have no way of even regulating currency supply

2020-03-11 16:19:22 UTC  

and if you do have a gold standard, you basically need a central bank to administer it

2020-03-11 16:21:03 UTC  

@Sophie that’s what I was trying to build to lol

2020-03-11 16:21:10 UTC  

Lol sry

2020-03-11 16:23:02 UTC  

That is very well said, however

2020-03-11 16:23:58 UTC  

Thanks 🙂

2020-03-11 16:27:33 UTC  

The other option is making your coins out of precious metals, but then you have big problems with electronic transfers, currency values aren’t pegged to each other (4 quarters might not equal a dollar) and you’re subject to debasement

2020-03-11 18:02:30 UTC  

@abby_ella Yes, but no.

2020-03-11 18:03:25 UTC  

@Sophie A free banking system is capable to combating hyperinflation, if inflation is too high interest rates naturally rise.
> And if you don’t have a gold standard you have no way of even regulating currency supply
> and if you do have a gold standard, you basically need a central bank to administer it
We had a gold standard without a central bank.

2020-03-11 18:04:05 UTC  

We did, and we had mass panics once or twice a decade

2020-03-11 18:04:57 UTC  

Prior to the FED the business cycle was less severe, less persistent and had shorter recovery times.