Cunning and deceptive yes, agreed, but not smart in the least bit.

Lets take Jacob Zuma as an example: we all view him as stupid since he didnt even finish grade 3. Still he managed to loot this country dry during his term. He may perhaps have his day in court but best case scenario is he will be found guilty but will be let of the hook and serve his jailtime under house arrest in nKandla. Almost like how Pablo Escobar served out his jailtime in his own prison that he built and administrated.

That's still not smart, that's a good example of cunning

cunning

1. having or showing skill in achieving one's ends by deceit or evasion.

yeah but, that doesn't mean he's smart - Elon Musk is smart, Zuma is just driven by green and power.

isnt cunning also known as outsmart?😅

Maybe you could make that argument yes, however smart is defined in positive context, so if you want to consider what Zuma is doing as positive, by all means, I just don't consider it positive.

I get the whole concept of not underestimating these guys and just assuming they are idiots. But I'd rather stick to not trusting them than elevating them in any way

Not the point I was trying to make, would never see that bastard in a positive light. But this is starting to feel like a strawman arguement.

My point is we underestimated them and they are winning at this game

@spursfan82 better worded thank you

are you calling me a strawman ? 😆

LOL sorry for the racist strawman

Underestimated how though?

I mean what do you suggest we do?

We have no real leadership

Im bored so im fetching my tinfoilhat:

What happened to Gadaffi's gold? and whhy was Thuli MAdonsela denied acces to the nKandla bunker?

@Sheamus

I wish I had the answer, we are too devided to fall behind a Leader, and yes I agree we have no real leadership.

but I think what is going to happen is to counter this far left narrative is a growing right wing following.

Yes exactly my point, hence I don't understand why we underestimated the commies when the real problem is our division

The commies put the division there in the first place

Devide and conquer

Lol it was there a long long time ago, before my time even

Regarding my tinfoil hat theory:
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/is-there-cash-in-zumas-bunker-20161120-2
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2013-06-02-gaddafi-billions-found-in-sa/

"It has been established that the Libyans:

Met President Jacob Zuma in Pretoria on December 10 2012;
Held a follow-up meeting with Zuma at Nkandla on April 20, which was also attended by Libyan embassy official Salah Marghani and Zuma's cousin Sibusiso "Deebo" Mzobe;
Met Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan on April 26; and
Wrote to Justice Minister Jeff Radebe on May 9 for help tracing and securing the loot and preventing "illegal attempts [to] move the funds", sparking a probe by the Asset Forfeiture Unit."

@Meerkat_RSA Why did you repost my post xd

@WuldGoGayForLauren what post did I repost?

JubToday at 12:47
@everyone
https://youtu.be/KsO3b3tgdzQ
YouTube
Renaldo Gouws
Zuma Supports BLF | South Africa (2018)

New vid from our favorite Gnome

The post that got reposted ofcourse

@Voortrekker interesting conspiracy

DM me for to get your very own tinfoil hat, I make them myself using recycled materials and is 100% handmade and proudly South African

Not BEE though

https://i.imgur.com/ysvBFaX.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/pPTzbwE.mp4 when you forget to take your dog off silent

Lol

Interesting spike after the war in Libia in 2011.

I might have to wait another month to get my License Card due to the bloody strikes

Same problem here but our munisupality doesnt even have paper to print temporary licenses...

xd

what is considered a gnome size? I am 5'9... I feel sorry for people shorter than me 😄

5'9 is kind off the average for us so anything under that and you are a gnome