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manipulate them,
most people who think in collectives aren't that bright to begin with
They're useful tools, look at how the democratic party uses them
Agreed
And the Alt Right are one of the boogiemen that empower the democrats.
well they're a boogieman due to the media propping them up as such
The democratic party knows that they think as collectives. For civic nationalism to work you need to stop them thinking as a ethinc or racial group to work. How will you do it?
that's why people like Sargon, Milo, and Jordan peterson have to be 'Alt-Right Mouthpieces'
But Aussie, you're in a collective as well.
by taking away their welfare
force them to actually bother doing something themselves
The easiest way to get someone to stop thinking collectively is to treat & judge them like an individual
I know Rye. My point is that civic nationalism gose against Human nature so it can't work.
so does communism, or any other form of group ideology
We have laws/policies that are meant to help “the X community”. Stop doing that. Make laws and policies that help everyone. By only helping “the X community” you’re enforcing the idea that everyone in that group is similar
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My big concern with civic nationalism, which I prefer in theory, is that so far it hasn't addressed the assimilation question: what about those that refuse to assimilate? It only works if everyone is on-board with it, but what if they are not? I know there's the easy "don't let those people in" response, but the problem is we already have.
When in reality their individuals with individual needs
I don't know where this Deller guy came from
but I like'em
Narnia
Yes communism dosen't and that is why t dosen't work. Group Idenity is natural you need to make people atomized individuals to not think in those terms.
group identity is not natural
People turn on each other the moment its more profitable
Group identity only works when people believe theres profit as an individual in it
they're fought for profit, resources, more control by eliminating other faiths that tell you otherwise
Yes civilization is people giving up some of their right for their benifits.
I mean even apes organize as a tribe and fight each other for resources.
yes, because its strength in numbers
if they had true group identity, the alpha of the pack wouldn't constantly shift whilst they're in their prime
That wasn't real tribalism.
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Today we’re allies against a common enemy, tomorrow we’re enemies because being friends is no longer in my best interests
So why shouldn't we do it in the most natural way by doing with people who are genetically similar?
#Stalin&Roosevelt
we are doing the most natural thing
How?
You think the French and the Norse are genetically similar, m8?
In terms of race yes.
being an individual is more profitable for succesful people because our society is moddled so
Being poor and demanding free stuff is profitable if the alternative is having the exact same and working all day
Becase they are the same race.
What makes you think non whites will let that happen?
it is happening right now
Non whites want handouts not no handouts.
Lazy people want handouts