They kinda are. There’s no more societal expectations on who’s the provider, who raises children, ect

unless you force quotas, gender roles are very alive in modern society

Its what currently causes this argument for the "wage" gap

the modern traditional roles are still taht women pick nurturing jobs

Now it’s you do you

We have forced quotas lol

Wtf do you think all these diversity officers in big corporations are for

i mean forced quotas as in "force women to study STEM"

that once a woman graduates highschool, they have no choice, they must go to STEM and then go work

so that STEM becomes 50/50

because they don't currently simply because of gender roles

Women don't want to do technical jobs

they mostly want nurturing jobs, like vet, nurse, caregiver etc

you don't see many women doing construction work, or work on some oil rig

theres no quotas for those jobs either

Gender roles pretty much moved from:
Hard Work and Nurturing Home

To
Hard Work and Nurturing Work

Wouldn’t that then mean you can’t do both? Unless there’s a job out there that would be hard&nurturing work

You can do both

gender roles aren't an absolute

Joan of Arc wasn't confined to being a maid back in 1430

Just like women now aren't confined to nuturing work

hard work is not exactly the right word i don't think

If you’re saying we’ve evolved to the point where the male role would be something like physical labor on an oil rig, and the female role is now nurturing work like being a nurse

How do you fit both roles?

i would say physical but tech isn't very physical and nurturing can be very physical. There is a word to describe what you mean but hard is not it

Soldier 😛

^

battlefield medic would fill both

i mean hard as in the jobs that really require yuo to just hardball it

You can't just go "eeh i don't wanna, i don't feel my best today"

So anything from oil rigs to kicking everyones teeth in financially on wallstreet

ICU nurse.

or ofc, being a soldier on the frontlines

@Dr.Wol what? you think a parent or nurse can just go "eeeeh, i don't feel like **feeding the kid today**"

lmao

like i said, here is a word for it, but hard is not it

I mean, they can, that just makes them bad at their job

that could be said for an oil rig worker

hence my point

a nurse can call in sick

a soldier in the trenches can't just go "eeh, you guys mind if i go for a drink 1000 meters back?"

yes, but technically an oil rig worker could call in sick. i highly doubt they want a sick person who is at half performance messing around. Now, that doesn't mean they won't TRY and not call in sick

but even a cop can call in sick. there are very few jobs you can't.

hell, even a soldier gets a slightly easier job if sick, even on the front lines in the trenches.

It would be sad for an oil worker, but Deepwater Horizon happened so......

but this is off point

yeah but you know what i mean right?

Basically the kind of jobs where unless you're seeing colors you shouldn't and basically walking becomes an expression of art, you're not just gonna be able to bail

its something work vs nurture work.