pretty much boils down to "Its not a war because we say its not" 😛

and when there is more than 2 sides, i believe its called a cluster fuck

and yes, exactly

it becomes war when theres an actual declaration of war by whatever side makes it to record history

well, because we say its not and because no one else says it is

basically if no one really important gives enough of a shit to call it an official war, then its not

which is why i doubt the syrian thing will result in more than syria being levelled in a US-Russia pissing match of "we dislike what you are doing here but don't give a shit enough to call this a real war."

i really don't think Russia or the US really have the balls to declare a real war. It much easier for them to just piss each-other off in a passive agressive way.

Especially over something as trivial as Syria.

the only problem is that passive aggressive on the scales of countries so large as the US and Russia it involves actual aggression.

but when, in the last like 30 years, has the US and Russia not been doing this exact same shit all the time?

To be fair, Missiles Launched isn't exactly passive.

"passive" in terms of not out right declaring war or attacking mainlands. Basically if there is not missiles landing in the US, Canada, the EU, Japan, Korea, or China, its passive aggressive.

Although I supported him, missile launches on Syria was not what I voted for Trump for, and really wish he'd stop...

did you really think he would be more than a man child?

I mean, Hillary was actively courting war in Syria as well

Trump wasn't at election time

lets face it, trump didn't win, hillary lost.

I mean, kinda true.

Trump campaigned better according to the rules of the election

in a certain light, sure

But he did beat all the conventional republicans

That, as well.

its not really hard to beat trump, but you need to basically hate both sides to do it and have a spine.

the have a spine part is the hard part.

given most politicians are invertebrates

You underestimate the power of the Republican and Democrat parties.

Particularly in the Democrat party, someone who openly hates the Democrat party can never get the nod, due to the system that decides that.

And to members of the Republican party, the GOP has a meaning to them, even if their members don't reflect that meaning

Basically, a change has to come from within

Trump was supposed to be that change

And in particular, I don't think the democrat party will moderate any time soon

but see, the democrat party is imploding, and the Republican party has always had a problem with public speaking

they usually pushed too hard on the religious angle and i think that usually costs them

I know that, in my area, the Libertarian party is actually planting itself in the local Republicans.

not a bad idea, given how far the left is going extreme

Like I said, it's the way it has to happen

The Republican party is far more open to it than the democratic party

Democrats are too fringe issue and SJW
Republicans are too old-world and christian

AKA, both aren't looking at solving things and religious

The Republicans have been on a secularizing trend for years.

nah, thats just the media

theres a reason trump chose pence