Message from @Grenade123
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do you even know about them? have you talk to them
plenty from venezuela are using IPFS , steem, etc.. to eat. feed their family
wont help anyone tho lmfao
Yes, great. What about people using the same tools for evil?
Its the ppl who is responsible not the tools
@Atkins first off, while there are many things that almost everyone believes is wrong, the terms good and evil, moral or immoral are subjective. Your argument is the same argument used against free speech. "Well yeah, government censoring is bad, but i mean, nazis are also just as bad, so lets stick with censoring speech." You will never get rid of pedos. Just because you don't seen them doesn't mean they are not already there. decartelizing won't make there suddenly be more pedos. But they would feel safe enough to be more open about it, meaning you can identify them, and figure out how to deal with them.
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seems like a poor excuse, since its the swedish team that made it happen 😂
@Grenade123 I generally dislike naïve techno-utopianism that only sees the good uses for new technology without giving any thought to the bad. That attitude has given us plenty of grief in the past, and as technology becomes more and more powerful it'll give us plenty more grief in the future.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't make new technology; that just means we need to design new technology while constantly thinking of how it can be abused.
you will never make a tool that will not be abused
So all attempts to mitigate abuse should be abandoned?
I think he means even if you consider possible means of abuse, people will find NEW ways
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if you want to mitigate abuse entirely, the easiest way is to just not make it
Sure. But IPFS doesn't appear to have taken ANY steps to address how their system can be abused..
Techno-utopians just seem to shrug and say whatever fuck da poleese.
no, its more like stop being lazy and deal with the problem, not hide the problem by giving unbelievable power to small groups of people.
@Atkins you know what the dark web is?
Yes I know what Tor is.
And don't tell me that Tor isn't used almost entirely by criminals.
The only people using Tor other than criminals are feds.
Your mom ain't sharing cute cat pictures on Tor.
cool, guess valuing privacy makes me a criminal
but i don't use tor that often
but my point is, the problem you are worried about, already exists
any way IPFS can be abused, is already being abused.
I know it already exists. I deal with it regularly.
I once got called to a location because their NAS stopped working.
Turns out the firmware wasn't updated.
Someone turned it intoa 6TB CP server.
it doesn't make the problem worse, nor better. that is no the problem it is designed to even touch upon.
i love how stupid these people are
sounds like the guy who brought a laptop with CP on to geek squad
asked them to fix it
Plenty of computers and smart devices get hijacked and turned into Tor nodes, proxies, VPN exits, etc.
Then grandma gets a visit from the cops one day on a NCMEC warrant because her dusty old laptop is being used to upload CP to youtube.
welcome to the internet.