Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-30 17:41:08 UTC  

seems like a poor excuse, since its the swedish team that made it happen 😂

2018-06-30 18:05:55 UTC  

@Grenade123 I generally dislike naïve techno-utopianism that only sees the good uses for new technology without giving any thought to the bad. That attitude has given us plenty of grief in the past, and as technology becomes more and more powerful it'll give us plenty more grief in the future.

2018-06-30 18:06:57 UTC  

That doesn't mean we shouldn't make new technology; that just means we need to design new technology while constantly thinking of how it can be abused.

2018-06-30 18:07:18 UTC  

you will never make a tool that will not be abused

2018-06-30 18:07:51 UTC  

So all attempts to mitigate abuse should be abandoned?

2018-06-30 18:08:52 UTC  

I think he means even if you consider possible means of abuse, people will find NEW ways

2018-06-30 18:08:58 UTC  

^

2018-06-30 18:09:16 UTC  

if you want to mitigate abuse entirely, the easiest way is to just not make it

2018-06-30 18:09:35 UTC  

Sure. But IPFS doesn't appear to have taken ANY steps to address how their system can be abused..

2018-06-30 18:10:08 UTC  

Techno-utopians just seem to shrug and say whatever fuck da poleese.

2018-06-30 18:12:31 UTC  

no, its more like stop being lazy and deal with the problem, not hide the problem by giving unbelievable power to small groups of people.

2018-06-30 18:12:40 UTC  

people are the problem, not the tools

2018-06-30 18:14:16 UTC  

@Atkins you know what the dark web is?

2018-06-30 18:17:33 UTC  

Yes I know what Tor is.

2018-06-30 18:17:49 UTC  

And don't tell me that Tor isn't used almost entirely by criminals.

2018-06-30 18:18:17 UTC  

The only people using Tor other than criminals are feds.

2018-06-30 18:18:34 UTC  

Your mom ain't sharing cute cat pictures on Tor.

2018-06-30 18:18:34 UTC  

cool, guess valuing privacy makes me a criminal

2018-06-30 18:18:49 UTC  

but i don't use tor that often

2018-06-30 18:19:04 UTC  

but my point is, the problem you are worried about, already exists

2018-06-30 18:19:24 UTC  

any way IPFS can be abused, is already being abused.

2018-06-30 18:19:30 UTC  

I know it already exists. I deal with it regularly.

2018-06-30 18:19:49 UTC  

I once got called to a location because their NAS stopped working.

2018-06-30 18:19:59 UTC  

Turns out the firmware wasn't updated.

2018-06-30 18:20:05 UTC  

Someone turned it intoa 6TB CP server.

2018-06-30 18:20:12 UTC  

it doesn't make the problem worse, nor better. that is no the problem it is designed to even touch upon.

2018-06-30 18:20:30 UTC  

i love how stupid these people are

2018-06-30 18:20:51 UTC  

sounds like the guy who brought a laptop with CP on to geek squad

2018-06-30 18:20:59 UTC  

asked them to fix it

2018-06-30 18:21:41 UTC  

Plenty of computers and smart devices get hijacked and turned into Tor nodes, proxies, VPN exits, etc.

2018-06-30 18:22:32 UTC  

Then grandma gets a visit from the cops one day on a NCMEC warrant because her dusty old laptop is being used to upload CP to youtube.

2018-06-30 18:22:53 UTC  

welcome to the internet.

2018-06-30 18:22:59 UTC  

bot net of smart watches

2018-06-30 18:23:43 UTC  

fuck da po-leese amirite.

2018-06-30 18:23:47 UTC  

buncha nazis

2018-06-30 18:24:07 UTC  

careful, you might get charged with a hate crime for saying that

2018-06-30 18:35:26 UTC  

Poor Jonathan pie is in for a rude awakening https://twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1013020054357729281?s=19

2018-06-30 19:06:09 UTC  

"I'm not sorry for whats about to happen to you"

2018-06-30 19:29:24 UTC  

This rep ad is smart on so many levels

2018-06-30 19:29:26 UTC