Message from @Salvation_Crucifix
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So happy i got all of my guns before all of this started šÆ
Muh gooberment
Especially a moral government based on purity and devotion to God
Governments are always going to grow larger there is no real way to stop it so it might as well be under our control
But i need to watch netflix reeeee
These ideas are so primitive, wew. You know that even a moral government can never be a substitute for your parents, right? Your parents know you, they may even, at times, know you better than you know yourself. They have every reason to educate you, too, and to educate you with leniency, when that's required. They will never sacrifice you for the "greater good", whereas a "moral" government might do just that, punishing you for an imagined infriction so that others will learn not to actually commit the deed. The metaphor is lacking on several levels.
I'd also like to know where you find a "pure" and devoted government.
>primitive ideas
>acting as if thatās a bad thing
Lol
You can only have a small government with a moral society/population
Your conception seems to be that some pure and moral government composed of people who visit sunday mass and never watch porn will magically spring into existence, and then educate everyone else to be as good and pure as they are.
Otherwise it wonāt work
I didnāt say they would magically spring into existence
Where does a moral society come from? @EYEFORKNOWLEDGE156
@Mr.Fischļ¼ē«é¾ļ¼ Following God in all His glory and wishes
Omge
If you don't need a government to instill morality in people, which is what you really presuppose, then why do you think that you badly need one later?
I am not talking about punishing literal faggotry and abortion (the latter of which is clearly homicide). People managed to keep that kind of immorality in check just fine in the past, without needing an intrusive government.
Without an authority to tell people āno this is badā people will naturally gravitate towards ābadā things
As I mentioned previously, we see this with homosexuality, abortion, rape, murder, etc
In countries where those arenāt punished, the rate of crimes surge up
@AH-64 because people were more religious in the past thatās why it was kept in check
Why do you speak of "telling" people what is wrong? We are not discussing communicative actions here, but coercion.
the natural entropy of society must be fought!
Because thatās how it must be done
The Church has been this authority for over a thousand years, and it was seldom very coercive. Even the Spanish Institution was largely a joke.
Thatās how God did it, thatās how Kings of old did it, thatās how authoritarians and fascists did it, why shouldnāt that be how we do it
I seriously hope you don't have the Nazis in mind. Half the SA were homosexuals.
@here want to do vc?
They also sponsored abortion and forced sterilization, looted monasteries, and openly spread heresies. I found three of them in a single children's book.
BASED
hm in another one right now
This disgusts me.
Not even God magically hit every thief and fornicator with lightning. He reserves a lot of punishment for the afterlife, or He deals with it through providence, making people suffer the consequences of their sins.
Thereās something called the Laws of Moses
Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
It instructed Godās people themselves to punish sinners
Usually by death
Thus culling the spiteful mutants and other degenerates
I brought a good quote today