Message from @Cody
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The rape thing
Gun ownership is a right
What about the people in the 12th century?
I wouldn't think healthcare is a right
It absolutely is.
Gun ownership isnt a right
The second amendment is not about guns
It's the right to defend yourself that's the right
Gun ownership absolutely is.
The right to bear arms
And no
Arms could be a sword
You've got a lot of misconceptions here, codes.
First off
9th and 10th amendments.
What about them?
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Just because it's not listed in the Constitution doesn't mean it's not a right.
That's what the ninth says
Don't let rights be dictated by a piece of paper
Yup
Your life, liberty, etc..
Founding fathers identified three
Libery
Life, liberty, property.
Those are root human rights.
But I think you missed my point
Self-defense? Life.
Pretty sure I explained it poorly
Gun ownership? Property.
Healthcare? Life.
The problem with those is that only one of the 3 you could accomplish without tools
Kidnapping deprives liberty, murder deprives life, theft deprives property.
You cant have a gun without purchasing one
Yes.
But you can defend yourself without a gun
You can't have a printing press without buying one either.
I'm gonna side with codes that those are not rights rye, they are something your rights Grant you.
Yeah that's more what I was trying to explain
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