Message from @pratel

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2018-11-03 20:37:30 UTC  

And that's not exactly accurate.

2018-11-03 20:38:32 UTC  

You wouldn't compare Harry Potter, Game of Thrones and the 'For Dummies' series.

2018-11-03 20:39:17 UTC  

But, yeah. That explanation aside, apologies for interrupting the debate.

2018-11-03 20:59:39 UTC  

That is a poor comparison to make. The Tanakh is of course the closest equivalent to the Christian Bible, with it being made up of the Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim.

2018-11-03 21:00:07 UTC  

The Talmud is a study on theology and religious law

2018-11-03 21:01:05 UTC  

It is still a core work in Rabbinic Judaism and a better comparison for the Talmud would be a textbook, since it is more direct in the teaching of concepts over narrative.

2018-11-03 23:29:36 UTC  

Use-mention distinction is dying. That's the worst part of all the censorship.

Volokh Conspiracy changed papers because WaPo wouldn't let them cite court cases where they would have to use racial slurs to accurately reproduce court proceedings. Tim is afraid to read articles which are themselves reproducing racial slurs as they are the entire point of the story.

We're approaching a point where it may not be possible to report what is happening without running afoul of the censors. What kind of dystopia is this?

2018-11-03 23:41:35 UTC  

Operation Google 2 when?

2018-11-04 05:38:49 UTC  

super google 2

2018-11-04 06:47:34 UTC  

@Dvir you are correct. Also your name makes you hard to @...

2018-11-04 06:48:11 UTC  

Volokh Conspiracy is one of the most solid legal blogs on the web.

2018-11-04 06:48:22 UTC  

Eugene Volokh seems like a very solid guy.

2018-11-04 06:48:29 UTC  

I had a short exchange with him regarding a case.

2018-11-04 06:48:51 UTC  

He and Aaron T. Caplan have written an amicus brief regarding the Zoe Quinn case.

2018-11-04 06:49:30 UTC  

Zoe Quinn had engaged in the kind of legal abuse that is all too common now.

2018-11-04 06:49:44 UTC  

She had used a protection order to basically get something like a gag order.

2018-11-04 06:50:26 UTC  

Protection orders were intended to protect against severe, immediate physical harm, but he was restrained from even posting ABOUT her, which Eugene Volokh argued constituted a prior restraint on free speech.

2018-11-04 06:50:59 UTC  

I am hoping that the Supreme Court can revert many of what is now established legal practices in regards to the abusive use of protection orders and other legal remedies.

2018-11-04 06:51:35 UTC  

Also, not many know, but Eugene Volokh had actually started out as a computer scientist and later switched to law.

2018-11-04 06:52:08 UTC  

I highly recommend the incredibly articulate amicus brief he has written.

2018-11-04 08:07:30 UTC  

Volokh Conspiracy has more citations in court (citations meaning people using his work and citing him as a reference, not him getting in trouble with the law) than some top legal journals. If you read Volokh Conspiracy, you're often getting real legal opinions that can often float around the Supreme Court. Volokh et al. are very solid legal scholars and incredible people who have helped a lot of people better understand the law and dedicate their work to be publicly available for the layperson to understand. A true treasure and worthwhile reading for anyone with even a cursory interest in law or politics.

2018-11-04 08:24:24 UTC  

Absolutely agree with that.

2018-11-04 16:24:50 UTC  

@Stefan Payne - I have an alternate take on this

2018-11-04 16:25:33 UTC  

As the law is written currently, the US cannot draft a woman for military duty, either. Does that mean women are no longer citizens?

2018-11-04 16:26:01 UTC  

there is a very simple legal challenge to the selective service act thanks to obama

2018-11-04 16:26:05 UTC  

There is nothing in the Constitution that would preclude the drafting of anyone within our borders

2018-11-04 16:26:11 UTC  

could be overturned in a week or two

2018-11-04 16:26:22 UTC  

We could draft illegal aliens if we wanted to

2018-11-04 16:26:27 UTC  

#draftourdaughters

2018-11-04 16:26:40 UTC  

Not sure if we would want to, but nothing in the Constitution stops us

2018-11-04 16:26:54 UTC  

why not?

2018-11-04 16:27:08 UTC  

why wouldn't you want to give these women the same responsibilities as men?

2018-11-04 16:27:29 UTC  

Illegal aliens are under the jurisdiction of our laws. Anyone *except a foreign national on diplomatic duty and therefore given diplomatic immunity* is under our laws while they are here

2018-11-04 16:28:10 UTC  

That's the reason why the children of diplomats born here are not considered citizens - because they have diplomatic immunity

2018-11-04 16:28:14 UTC  

i would guess that their home countries with outstanding tax debts would claim differently.

2018-11-04 16:30:15 UTC  

As far as women and the selective service, I honestly believe we need to decide to either include women or ditch the law as it current stands. I have more thoughts on the development of "a well regulated militia" as described in the Second Amendment, but that would be a complicated debate and one I have not the time for right now.

2018-11-04 16:30:54 UTC  

If women want equality, they should want it in all things, that means being drafted to die in wars

2018-11-04 16:31:19 UTC  

We haven't drafted anyone since 1972

2018-11-04 16:31:19 UTC  

but they don't want that, they want men to continue to die for them

2018-11-04 16:31:31 UTC  

if i owe the feds 50k in back taxes and scupper off to thailand, they aren't going to say i'm no longer subject to US law because i am not physically present.

with respect to selective service, i expect that lots and lots of erstwhile feminists would suddenly feel a traditionalist twinge if they were handed draft cards