Message from @Redneo

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2018-12-02 22:05:13 UTC  

@samoja democracy is mob rule my dude, which is harder to overcome than a single person. The magna carta wasn't upheld until it could no longer be held. The only obstacle that upholds liberty is force - force applied by the people against tyrants. Everything else is a measure of trust
This is why America is the least degraded of the Western nations. Until rather recently, relatively speaking, the people were allowed to apply military level force to government bodies, and as such they rarely needed to

2018-12-02 22:17:03 UTC  

@Beemann No, it's the threat of force combined with desire to get reelected, the issue is really human nature, people seem biologically predisposed to obey those they see as authority, that has been proven time and time again, that's how a dictator can cut trough red tape, first time he orders a government agency to do something illegal, and gets away with it it's game over.

2018-12-02 22:27:01 UTC  

arguing about the method of government and what races actually are is all fun, but what are you guys going to do when we are all going to die nomatter what race or creed we hold?

were in peak oil, peak coal is around the corner

2018-12-02 22:43:48 UTC  

@samoja m8, reelection is only a factor as long as everyone plays by the rules. Authoritarians dont stop just because their term is up. It's also funny that you say "first time he orders a government agency to do something illegal, and gets away with it it's game over." considering Canada and the 'States have both had government administrations break laws and curb the rights of their people. It is, in fact, now precedent that things work in that manner. I guess it's been game over for decades now. When's the dictator coming in?

2018-12-02 23:04:06 UTC  

May we acknowledge that it isn't just the executive branch which may break the law. Legislatures have a habit of passing laws which extend beyond the scope of their power and require the courts to axe.

2018-12-02 23:04:40 UTC  

I don't know if it's relevant, I haven't been paying attention. Just thought it offered some perspective to "one wrong move and it's over."

2018-12-02 23:19:40 UTC  

Oh, don't even get me started on the institutional corruption and overreach of the judiciary.

2018-12-02 23:32:35 UTC  

Most of the US government is unconstitutional

2018-12-02 23:33:48 UTC  

It'll take a convention of states to unfuck the US gubbamint.

2018-12-02 23:34:44 UTC  

The nation is in dire need of being reforged.

2018-12-02 23:47:19 UTC  

so whats tonights debate folks?

2018-12-02 23:49:51 UTC  

Is it economically feasible to recolonize Africa?

2018-12-03 00:10:22 UTC  

That conservatives better get ready to go to the happy fun totally not terrible gulags.

2018-12-03 00:12:35 UTC  

Its not like conservatives are much better than the left.

2018-12-03 00:12:58 UTC  

One side says pedo, the other says nazi is the only difference

2018-12-03 00:14:05 UTC  

I never hear them say pedo seriously.

2018-12-03 00:14:17 UTC  

Hey, criticism is fair, but are we really going to say that the conservatives are as bad as the current left?

2018-12-03 00:15:01 UTC  

Commie would be a more apt word of choice than Pedo

2018-12-03 00:15:23 UTC  

But I'd argue many of them embrace the term

2018-12-03 00:15:45 UTC  

If they want traditional gender roles with all the violence against women act crap and refusing to this day to let men vote (they can earn the vote by signing up to the draft just like women could vote prior to 1920, it just wasnt enshrined federally or in the UK they could vote just as long as men could if they fulfilled the same conditions EXCEPT being draftable)

2018-12-03 00:15:53 UTC  

well then yeah

2018-12-03 00:16:27 UTC  

Whereas calling someone advocating for minimal government a nazi is strictly untrue

2018-12-03 00:16:48 UTC  

yeah it is untrue

2018-12-03 00:18:02 UTC  

But calling a pedo is typicly untrue. Not neccessarily but typicly

2018-12-03 00:18:17 UTC  

Sure. Who uses that?

2018-12-03 00:18:19 UTC  

And when they then say that pedos should be shot or some such crap... like how authoritarian can you get?

2018-12-03 00:18:31 UTC  

Who calls ALL THE LEFT pedos the same way?

2018-12-03 00:18:45 UTC  

It's false equivalency.

2018-12-03 00:19:30 UTC  

i guess its more limited but what they think is justified by the mental state of someone is preeettty similar

2018-12-03 00:19:57 UTC  

Seriously, though. Who?

2018-12-03 00:20:18 UTC  

I've never heard it.

2018-12-03 00:20:25 UTC  

Doesn't mean it doesn't exist

2018-12-03 00:20:33 UTC  

I believe Steven Crowder takes a very firm stance on pedophiles, but to my knowledge his position is an outlier.

2018-12-03 00:21:17 UTC  

```One side says pedo, the other says nazi is the only difference```

2018-12-03 00:21:38 UTC  

How do you quote like that?

2018-12-03 00:21:51 UTC  

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2018-12-03 00:22:04 UTC  

Tildes.

2018-12-03 00:22:07 UTC  

Thank you.

2018-12-03 00:22:28 UTC  

Encase it. Two tildes or three. Different effects.

2018-12-03 00:22:55 UTC  

According to the Left, I'm a nazi.