Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-01-22 23:23:44 UTC  

hello fellow degenerate

2018-01-22 23:23:48 UTC  

who?

2018-01-22 23:23:50 UTC  

hahaha

2018-01-22 23:23:59 UTC  

😂

2018-01-22 23:24:43 UTC  

debating isnt about creating instant counter-arguments, debaters always come into a debate with prepared notes based on what they think the other person will argue.

2018-01-22 23:24:59 UTC  

Oftentimes, it feels like an ambush

2018-01-22 23:25:00 UTC  

*good debaters

2018-01-22 23:25:09 UTC  

Which it essentially is sometimes

2018-01-22 23:25:24 UTC  

yes, and thats why you prepare

2018-01-22 23:25:25 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-01-22 23:25:47 UTC  

Found some old poll results of mine https://prnt.sc/hsc9qf

2018-01-22 23:25:52 UTC  

follow the teaching of Sun Tzu: know your enemy and know yourself.

2018-01-22 23:26:21 UTC  

It's hard to prepare when it's an ambush.

2018-01-22 23:26:30 UTC  

I'd rather not go around, jumping at social shadows.

2018-01-22 23:26:41 UTC  

And again, when the topic changes and shifts around.

2018-01-22 23:26:44 UTC  

^

2018-01-22 23:26:56 UTC  

if you are confident that its an ambush, don't take the debate.

2018-01-22 23:26:56 UTC  

"Let me just take out my binder..."

2018-01-22 23:26:57 UTC  

So what you're saying is...

2018-01-22 23:26:58 UTC  

I can see why you would prepare if you're in a real/planned debated. However if it's just some random person or family member that brings something up that you disagree, you're not going to have notes you're ready to use for that kind of debate

2018-01-22 23:27:08 UTC  

That too.

2018-01-22 23:27:17 UTC  

😮

2018-01-22 23:27:28 UTC  

well if you plan on debating random people, make sure you know your own position.

2018-01-22 23:27:35 UTC  

I just say I don’t know enough about a topic and don’t debate it or ask people to explain their views to me.

2018-01-22 23:27:59 UTC  

to the point where you can predict and debunk or deconstruct the opposing arguments.

2018-01-22 23:28:02 UTC  

Yeah, sometimes, people like to bounce off what they've heard off of other people simpy because they heard it from a person with whom they agree with most of the time.

2018-01-22 23:28:09 UTC  

Part of the problem is the idea that saying "let me think on that and get back with an answer" is weakness

2018-01-22 23:28:12 UTC  

Yee but I'm also not a politician. No way I'm investing that much time into politics when I have vydia games to play and work to go to

2018-01-22 23:28:14 UTC  

To be frank, I also don't care enough about the subject matter to memorize ever single possible minute detail and counter-point to any potential argument against it, either.

2018-01-22 23:28:36 UTC  

Yeah, I've got other stuff to do.

2018-01-22 23:28:45 UTC  

Greetings people

2018-01-22 23:28:50 UTC  

I always hated reading through articles and PDF files in debates.

2018-01-22 23:28:53 UTC  

Like hentai? You dirty perv

2018-01-22 23:28:55 UTC  

if you're genuinely interested in pursuit of the truth, you would welcome your "opponent" coming back at you with the best thought out response they have

2018-01-22 23:28:55 UTC  

But I could never back down

2018-01-22 23:29:01 UTC  

So I just suffered for my own ego

2018-01-22 23:29:08 UTC  

you dont have to know the minute details, you just have to know what your premises are. From that, you can reason out the rest of your position

2018-01-22 23:29:34 UTC  

Again, saying and doing are two entirely different things.

2018-01-22 23:29:35 UTC  

technically, debates aren't about truth, they are about convincing the audience.

2018-01-22 23:29:52 UTC  

Humans may say one thing, but do another entirely.

2018-01-22 23:29:59 UTC  

It's a good trait to be able to follow up.