They've already grouped up.

Partly because the nearest safe countries close off their borders, if I recall. I just remember milions of empty tents in Saudia Arabia.

I live in a hurricane-prone area of the US.

During an evacuation, I've been a 'Refugee' before.

Part of the whole point of being a refugee is being a seeker of temporary refuge.

I don't think there's any problem with being a refugee.

The problem comes in

when the host country starts making arrangements for that to become a permanent solution.

Yeah.

yes

That's a slimy method, and a backdoor way to import a new voting base

which they do in europes case, because the left-wing european states are failing due to obviously flawed policies, and they need a voting block

Yeah, I think it was either Ireland or Scotland that is already talking about giving migrants the right to vote?

The curious thing is, this won't help anyone. Once the refugees become a majority, they will create their failed state in the host nation, because they haven't been culturally adapted or selected for citizenship.

Yeah.

I doubt it's Ireland really

They're pretty culturally hegemonic

socialism doesn't work either, but people still want to implement it at all costs

the point is, these leaders are disconnected from the normal society, they're surrounded by yes-men feeding their ego that they're being nice to poor poor refugees, and in addition they gain votes to remain in charge.

its simply bad/weak leadership because the west hasn't had REAL hardships for over 2 generations

Ah, it is Scotland.

and identitarian politics won't help with these leaders because they're in most cases the white politicians

Yeah, I wasn't trying to blame everything solely on the migrants. If anything, they're the symptom.

don't get me wrong, i will never accuse anyone here, i don't like the "Ha! gotcha i win the argument" debating thing

i rather talk, discuss things, explore viewpoints and find solutions with people

Yeah, I've been in that kind of argument, especially the kind where you're talking about a subject, they give you their sources, and because you're in the middle of actually *reading* their sources they try to declare victory. lol

Because you didn't respond "fast enough."

well that sort of arguing is what youtubes bloodsports is all about basically

Make argument A, refute it with Response B
Counter response B with argument C
Defeat argument C with response D

declare the other person is a cuck
get called a snowflake

end the debate with 0 progress, cuz the people who believe Person 1 support person 1 and hate person 2, and the same goes for person 2's supporters

Now where I'd say the Alt-Right is wrong, is that I don't see any restraint from them. If their movement, for instance, was for the preservation of culture, simply keeping Beer Steins & Polka german, Escargot French, and Fish'n'chips british, These cultures need protecting, absolutely. But I think there's a point that people who don't share a skin color ARE absolutely capable of adopting cultural values. If not for the idea of an Ethnostate, I'd likely support the Alt-right.

you hit the nail right on the head Ryecast

polka is not german

The Alt-Right are like First-wave feminists with third wave feminist objectives.

looking past the point where the problem is solved, looking for power, as opposed to solutions.

and that's where they lose me.

well they basically want the revolutionary end goal

Replace the current ruling class with "our" ruling class, who will then fix the problems in society

Basically.

Falko, my apologies.

Keep Czech Polka.

german polka would be the white supremacist thing to do, appropriate it 😛

antifa is german though 😒

ironic.

antifa is larpers chasing ghosts

antifa is the reason hitler got voted into power because they gave him enough victim points by physically attacking him and his followers. THAT is ironic.

and if you see parallels to the current day alt-right... that is just in your head.