Now, in a scramble for relevancy, the movement is doubling back.

"We just need to kill all of the dragons."

"But the dragons are dead?"
"YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!"

MICRO-DRAGONS!

you lot do realise that its the fact we achnowledge "groups" is what caused all this right?

they're all "the immigrants who came from bad arab places" so we let them all in, instead of kicking out anyone with a valid reason

And they're not going to stop acknowledging groups.

Groups caused this because we, as a group allowed it

So what is the solution?

No, I don't believe that's accurate, jay.

So we as a group have to push back

The problem is misidentification.

Hm?

the misidentification is caused by considering them all a group of "refugees"

and we let them in cuz "ooh the poor refugees", refugees flee to the nearest safe zone and sit out the conflict in their homeland

refugees don't traverse an entire continent to sit it out in the place where they get given free money, a house and food

well let's take terrorism for instance. If we identify where a son-of-a-bitch mass-murdering explodey-boi comes from, that's just the first step.

But the thing is, no matter how WE group them

if they're already a part of a terrorist organization like Al Qaeda, Hezbola, or the NRA

And no, refugees are *supposed* to flee to the nearest safe country, but they don't, they come into western countries anyway.

They've already grouped up.

Partly because the nearest safe countries close off their borders, if I recall. I just remember milions of empty tents in Saudia Arabia.

I live in a hurricane-prone area of the US.

During an evacuation, I've been a 'Refugee' before.

Part of the whole point of being a refugee is being a seeker of temporary refuge.

I don't think there's any problem with being a refugee.

The problem comes in

when the host country starts making arrangements for that to become a permanent solution.

Yeah.

yes

That's a slimy method, and a backdoor way to import a new voting base

which they do in europes case, because the left-wing european states are failing due to obviously flawed policies, and they need a voting block

Yeah, I think it was either Ireland or Scotland that is already talking about giving migrants the right to vote?

The curious thing is, this won't help anyone. Once the refugees become a majority, they will create their failed state in the host nation, because they haven't been culturally adapted or selected for citizenship.

Yeah.

I doubt it's Ireland really

They're pretty culturally hegemonic

socialism doesn't work either, but people still want to implement it at all costs

the point is, these leaders are disconnected from the normal society, they're surrounded by yes-men feeding their ego that they're being nice to poor poor refugees, and in addition they gain votes to remain in charge.

its simply bad/weak leadership because the west hasn't had REAL hardships for over 2 generations

Ah, it is Scotland.

and identitarian politics won't help with these leaders because they're in most cases the white politicians

Yeah, I wasn't trying to blame everything solely on the migrants. If anything, they're the symptom.

don't get me wrong, i will never accuse anyone here, i don't like the "Ha! gotcha i win the argument" debating thing

i rather talk, discuss things, explore viewpoints and find solutions with people

Yeah, I've been in that kind of argument, especially the kind where you're talking about a subject, they give you their sources, and because you're in the middle of actually *reading* their sources they try to declare victory. lol