I do not believe, for a second, that the merkelization of Europe is a move for the greater good.

I never said you did. I'm just saying that it is not likely to stop, that's all. lol

right.

However, even if we put a stop to all immigration and stopped the influx of migrants this second, as in the moment of the conversation, there are still more than enough in their host countries to outbreed their native populations in a few decades if they are not made to return back home.

I actually do believe that identity politics, to a degree, is needed in Europe.

I don't like identitarian politics. Ideally, we shouldn't have them at all, but in this situation I don't know about that anymore.

just out of curiosity, what would identitarian politics solve?

Very little, but a burst of it would nudge the modern course the right direction.

Right now decisions aren't being made to the benefit of the host population

Whether we engage in the idea of white people existing in a group or not, other groups are doing that very thing.

Groups get things done.

It's just that simple.

It would put races on a level playing field

Groups also don't like to give up power

that's the problem with that.

Yeah.

For instance, there was a time where Feminism accomplished it's goals

"No guys, I promise I'll put down the ultimate power you've given me after I finished a couple of things with it, really."

Now, in a scramble for relevancy, the movement is doubling back.

"We just need to kill all of the dragons."

"But the dragons are dead?"
"YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!"

MICRO-DRAGONS!

you lot do realise that its the fact we achnowledge "groups" is what caused all this right?

they're all "the immigrants who came from bad arab places" so we let them all in, instead of kicking out anyone with a valid reason

And they're not going to stop acknowledging groups.

Groups caused this because we, as a group allowed it

So what is the solution?

No, I don't believe that's accurate, jay.

So we as a group have to push back

The problem is misidentification.

Hm?

the misidentification is caused by considering them all a group of "refugees"

and we let them in cuz "ooh the poor refugees", refugees flee to the nearest safe zone and sit out the conflict in their homeland

refugees don't traverse an entire continent to sit it out in the place where they get given free money, a house and food

well let's take terrorism for instance. If we identify where a son-of-a-bitch mass-murdering explodey-boi comes from, that's just the first step.

But the thing is, no matter how WE group them

if they're already a part of a terrorist organization like Al Qaeda, Hezbola, or the NRA

And no, refugees are *supposed* to flee to the nearest safe country, but they don't, they come into western countries anyway.

They've already grouped up.

Partly because the nearest safe countries close off their borders, if I recall. I just remember milions of empty tents in Saudia Arabia.

I live in a hurricane-prone area of the US.

During an evacuation, I've been a 'Refugee' before.

Part of the whole point of being a refugee is being a seeker of temporary refuge.