Message from @RyeNorth
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the premise is inherently racist, yes.
it is also the exact opposite of what should be done.
you don't lower standards you improve the performance of those that don't meet them.
Exactly
It's like when they were letting women into the military. People wanting the strength requirement to be lowered and my only thought was "you are saying women are equally capable yet you are insisting that the standards should be lowered because women cannot meet them.... Which implies they are not equally capable."
yep. i don't have a problem with women in the military (well... if anything i have a problem with military in general but that's not the point) but if they don't meet the standards than they should not be allowed in it
in that case it is literally a question of life and death
what helps against not getting a job because of your criminal record? not having a criminal record.
Not having a criminal record is white privilege apparently
yeah... white privilege...
I can explain that
I've debated with people concerning the whole 'police are killing black people' thing
One of the issues constantly brought up
is perceived 'overpolicing' of black communities.
So the argument for not having a criminal record being white privilege
would be that the police don't actually deal with white communities the same way they deal with Black communities
the fallacy being that this fact is based on the race of the subject
yeah... no.
Best way to illustrate why this is wrong
is to turn away from 'frameable' crimes
At least from what I've found.
i was raised by a single - physically handicapped - mom and i never got in trouble with police. granted the society is different here... but that would make my point...
That's detatched by a couple degrees by the argument at hand.
And, in fact, might be used by someone debating against you as an own goal.
how?
Assuming that you're white, that would be the determining factor as to why you never had trouble with the police.
That's part of the thing
you recognize the risk factors that lead to crime
that's quite evident in your argument
the determening factor would be that i never did anything illegal
but the ones arguing white privilege don't recognize the risk factors that lead to high crime
The root of their argument is white patriarchy, generally.
even if you go down to an actual root, they implant that reason one layer below.
there is no layer below not doing anything illegal to not get into trouble with the police
It's the argument for god but with white privilege.
Also, did you absolutely never do anything that was ever illegal, or did you just never do anything illegal and get caught?
I can admit that I've done things in my past that I could've gotten in serious trouble for, but didn't.
i stole lego when i was like... 7?
And the reason I didn't get in trouble wasn't because I was white
trespassing on military property (with the boyscouts...)