Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-04-07 17:22:12 UTC  

you would need to be able to make logical connections from a to b to come to that conclusion

2018-04-07 17:35:08 UTC  

Gotta love how the "progressive" seem to think that the bar for societal standards needs to be lowered in order for minorities to meet them. It's almost like they believe people who belong to these minority groups are not able to meet these evidently high standards. This seems rather racist.

2018-04-07 17:39:18 UTC  

the premise is inherently racist, yes.

2018-04-07 17:39:35 UTC  

it is also the exact opposite of what should be done.

2018-04-07 17:40:13 UTC  

you don't lower standards you improve the performance of those that don't meet them.

2018-04-07 17:41:42 UTC  

Exactly

2018-04-07 17:43:15 UTC  

It's like when they were letting women into the military. People wanting the strength requirement to be lowered and my only thought was "you are saying women are equally capable yet you are insisting that the standards should be lowered because women cannot meet them.... Which implies they are not equally capable."

2018-04-07 17:47:50 UTC  

yep. i don't have a problem with women in the military (well... if anything i have a problem with military in general but that's not the point) but if they don't meet the standards than they should not be allowed in it

2018-04-07 17:48:18 UTC  

in that case it is literally a question of life and death

2018-04-07 17:49:11 UTC  

what helps against not getting a job because of your criminal record? not having a criminal record.

2018-04-07 17:49:47 UTC  

Not having a criminal record is white privilege apparently

2018-04-07 17:50:32 UTC  

yeah... white privilege...

2018-04-07 17:50:59 UTC  

I can explain that

2018-04-07 17:51:24 UTC  

I've debated with people concerning the whole 'police are killing black people' thing

2018-04-07 17:51:32 UTC  

One of the issues constantly brought up

2018-04-07 17:51:42 UTC  

is perceived 'overpolicing' of black communities.

2018-04-07 17:52:00 UTC  

So the argument for not having a criminal record being white privilege

2018-04-07 17:52:15 UTC  

would be that the police don't actually deal with white communities the same way they deal with Black communities

2018-04-07 17:52:32 UTC  

the fallacy being that this fact is based on the race of the subject

2018-04-07 17:52:41 UTC  

yeah... no.

2018-04-07 17:52:57 UTC  

Best way to illustrate why this is wrong

2018-04-07 17:53:07 UTC  

is to turn away from 'frameable' crimes

2018-04-07 17:53:15 UTC  

and describe murder rates per community.

2018-04-07 17:54:15 UTC  

At least from what I've found.

2018-04-07 17:54:55 UTC  

i was raised by a single - physically handicapped - mom and i never got in trouble with police. granted the society is different here... but that would make my point...

2018-04-07 17:55:26 UTC  

That's detatched by a couple degrees by the argument at hand.

2018-04-07 17:56:11 UTC  

And, in fact, might be used by someone debating against you as an own goal.

2018-04-07 17:56:21 UTC  

how?

2018-04-07 17:56:52 UTC  

Assuming that you're white, that would be the determining factor as to why you never had trouble with the police.

2018-04-07 17:57:04 UTC  

That's part of the thing

2018-04-07 17:57:13 UTC  

you recognize the risk factors that lead to crime

2018-04-07 17:57:19 UTC  

that's quite evident in your argument

2018-04-07 17:57:24 UTC  

the determening factor would be that i never did anything illegal

2018-04-07 17:57:55 UTC  

but the ones arguing white privilege don't recognize the risk factors that lead to high crime

2018-04-07 17:58:18 UTC  

The root of their argument is white patriarchy, generally.

2018-04-07 17:58:32 UTC  

even if you go down to an actual root, they implant that reason one layer below.

2018-04-07 17:59:07 UTC  

there is no layer below not doing anything illegal to not get into trouble with the police

2018-04-07 17:59:14 UTC  

It's the argument for god but with white privilege.

2018-04-07 17:59:18 UTC  

Also, did you absolutely never do anything that was ever illegal, or did you just never do anything illegal and get caught?

2018-04-07 18:00:25 UTC  

I can admit that I've done things in my past that I could've gotten in serious trouble for, but didn't.

2018-04-07 18:00:26 UTC  

i stole lego when i was like... 7?