Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 432237951938723841


2018-04-07 17:52:32 UTC  

the fallacy being that this fact is based on the race of the subject

2018-04-07 17:52:41 UTC  

yeah... no.

2018-04-07 17:52:57 UTC  

Best way to illustrate why this is wrong

2018-04-07 17:53:07 UTC  

is to turn away from 'frameable' crimes

2018-04-07 17:53:15 UTC  

and describe murder rates per community.

2018-04-07 17:54:15 UTC  

At least from what I've found.

2018-04-07 17:54:55 UTC  

i was raised by a single - physically handicapped - mom and i never got in trouble with police. granted the society is different here... but that would make my point...

2018-04-07 17:55:26 UTC  

That's detatched by a couple degrees by the argument at hand.

2018-04-07 17:56:11 UTC  

And, in fact, might be used by someone debating against you as an own goal.

2018-04-07 17:56:21 UTC  

how?

2018-04-07 17:56:52 UTC  

Assuming that you're white, that would be the determining factor as to why you never had trouble with the police.

2018-04-07 17:57:04 UTC  

That's part of the thing

2018-04-07 17:57:13 UTC  

you recognize the risk factors that lead to crime

2018-04-07 17:57:19 UTC  

that's quite evident in your argument

2018-04-07 17:57:24 UTC  

the determening factor would be that i never did anything illegal

2018-04-07 17:57:55 UTC  

but the ones arguing white privilege don't recognize the risk factors that lead to high crime

2018-04-07 17:58:18 UTC  

The root of their argument is white patriarchy, generally.

2018-04-07 17:58:32 UTC  

even if you go down to an actual root, they implant that reason one layer below.

2018-04-07 17:59:07 UTC  

there is no layer below not doing anything illegal to not get into trouble with the police

2018-04-07 17:59:14 UTC  

It's the argument for god but with white privilege.

2018-04-07 17:59:18 UTC  

Also, did you absolutely never do anything that was ever illegal, or did you just never do anything illegal and get caught?

2018-04-07 18:00:25 UTC  

I can admit that I've done things in my past that I could've gotten in serious trouble for, but didn't.

2018-04-07 18:00:26 UTC  

i stole lego when i was like... 7?

2018-04-07 18:01:08 UTC  

And the reason I didn't get in trouble wasn't because I was white

2018-04-07 18:01:18 UTC  

trespassing on military property (with the boyscouts...)

2018-04-07 18:01:38 UTC  

other than that... i don't remember ever doing anything illegal, no.

2018-04-07 18:01:39 UTC  

The reason was because the police in my area are accustomed to low crime

2018-04-07 18:02:37 UTC  

Teenage years, let me tell you...

2018-04-07 18:02:38 UTC  

heck... i managed to not do anything illegal while wearing all black at a protest...

2018-04-07 18:03:09 UTC  

You marched black bloc once?

2018-04-07 18:03:53 UTC  

Don't worry, I'm not going to go Aussie Aryan and say you're hopeless or anything, lol.

2018-04-07 18:04:00 UTC  

Clearly you're here. 😛

2018-04-07 18:04:13 UTC  

i did not cover my face and marching is too... well... i was at a protest with black bloc and was wearing all black...

2018-04-07 18:04:36 UTC  

I was actually involved in an early Black Lives Matter march.

2018-04-07 18:05:04 UTC  

before or after they turned full on racist?

2018-04-07 18:05:09 UTC  

I was coming home from a comic book shop I hung out at sometimes, and there was a march going down the street

2018-04-07 18:05:21 UTC  

Mmmmm

2018-04-07 18:05:27 UTC  

They were founded in racism.

2018-04-07 18:05:39 UTC  

in my opinion, it was always there

2018-04-07 18:05:46 UTC  

it just became more well documented with time

2018-04-07 18:06:02 UTC  

yeah... might be...