no, its a lie

nah, you just not have to follow a shitty degree

work experience out-ways college education.

there are some fields, that do pay well, that need college degrees. But between trade jobs being "frowned upon" (and some jobs that really could be trade jobs, like software engineering, being given as college course) and some college degrees just being completely saturated now (like nursing), its a lie

there are trade jobs that pay just as much as a college level course because we have no one to do them

let me rephrase myself and prove you right too

The issue is two-fold

A. People are taught to look down on tradesmen, which is getting more lucrative cuz not many people are tradesmen
B. People are taugth that an office-job is the place to be, Offices are from big companies who want ensurance taht you're capable to do your job, hence they demand a college degree

Hence people are told to get a job you need college
But they're not told that like 60% of all college educations are useless for getting a job because their field has no use for that many applicants

actually, he missed a point in why they want "socialism". They have a bleak outlook of paying so much money to college for a degree that won't pay them enough to cover more than the interest on their loans.

Well, I can say from my personal experience that if you wanna go to STEM fields, like I did, or other research fields, College is an imperative. However, stuff like Liberal Arts and Gender studies courses leave lots of students with no job prospects

They would have used their time in a much better way if they went to trade schools.

@Deleted User most STEM fields, but not all. specifically the tech ones.

Yes, Tech ones

those you can get away without college education

you can learn all you need to know from the internet and working under someone

he missed a lot of things

Low wages are the result of there being more supply than demand for workers (illegals, low skilled plebs)
So companies don't have to raise wages to attract people, they can pick any pleb and demand low wages because if you dont like it they'll just pick someone else

And with that high supply of labor-fit people, that can't get a job, you get high taxes because someone has to pay for their welfare whilst they look for a new job

'for you ten others'

Well, you can learn, sure. But when I went into interviews, they wanted my degree first

I'm a software engineer.

so am i

shipped products would have had greater value

me also, though specialised in computer game development

without that, my education is all i had

@Dr.Wol same. although my full degree was officially computer science

you know anything about opengl?

I'm an Mtech, so we may be different

had to deal with it, prefer opentk

how well versed are you in opentk? 😛

god, haven't used it in probably like 3 years. but i might be able to give you a hand if you want to DM at some point

@Deleted User Mtech?

You guys don't have it there?

we may, i just don't know if you are talking about a company or something like medical technology

Mtech is either Medical technology or Mechanical technology (robotics) i think

Masters in technology

aah

Fuck medical

i'm working on my premasters right now actually

Medical is hell here

ooooh, okay.

you can spend decades in it

And end up jobless

yes we have masters, but they are usually called MS

yeah