Message from @pratel

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2018-08-01 15:46:24 UTC  

damn those Russian bots, draining Iran water so Trump oppresses Muslims! 😦

2018-08-01 17:12:25 UTC  

Mueller indictment of Russians for interfering in the 2016 election. A few things about this indictment.

1. It doesn’t accuse any Americans of wrong doing. The FBI has explicitly stated that the no Americans are being accused in the press conference about this indictment. This includes Trump, and everyone in his campaign.

2. No vote is claimed to have been affected by these events.

3. The Russians are accused of making fake accounts, online personas, and RL identities to spread propaganda in favor of Black Lives Matter, Sanders and Trump. Also Facebook ads were purchased, and a few events were planned.

4. The actual crimes here are related to identity theft, fraud and the obfuscation of being foreign agents.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

This is the first one FYI

2018-08-01 17:28:10 UTC  

Ty ty

2018-08-01 17:36:15 UTC  

The Chinese government blocks information on the internet about political opponents, free speech, sex, news, and academic studies. It bans websites about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, for instance, and references to “anticommunism” and “dissidents.” Mentions of books that negatively portray authoritarian governments, like George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm, have been prohibited on Weibo, a Chinese social media website. The country also censors popular Western social media sites like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, as well as American news organizations such as the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

2018-08-01 17:36:42 UTC  

"Do no evil" no wonder they got rid of it lol

2018-08-01 17:41:56 UTC  

Thats chynah to ya man

2018-08-01 17:46:53 UTC  

Google has been doing this for awhile.

There's an old PBS documentary on Tienanmen (Frontline: The Tank Man if you want to see it) and htey note that simply keying in google.com.cn and searching for Tiananmen makes no mention of the riots or aftermath.

Google briefly left China and retreated to Hong Kong for refusing to censor. Then they went back quietly. The Chinese never budged.

2018-08-01 17:49:39 UTC  

Well it looks to me like we need to promote alternative search engines fast

2018-08-01 17:50:11 UTC  

I dont use google ever since they stopped showing anime streaming sites

2018-08-01 17:54:29 UTC  

I use Bing personally. Bribery works.

2018-08-01 17:54:47 UTC  

I'm kinda unsure if it really matters too much. Silicon Valley can be a bit of a hive mind.

2018-08-01 17:55:00 UTC  

if only anime streaming sites were any good these days :c

2018-08-01 17:55:29 UTC  

Mistake is dealing with the chinese.

2018-08-01 17:55:41 UTC  

They are very powerful in terms of industrial prowess.

2018-08-01 18:17:20 UTC  

i don't know if you can blame china's censorship on google. They seemed to do a decent enough job following the motto do no evil until the split up and formed Alphabet, everything went down hill rather quickly after that.

2018-08-01 18:18:15 UTC  

You can't. But Google once took a hard stand against it and people are angry.

2018-08-01 18:19:11 UTC  

Dude they delete th google drives of people.

2018-08-01 18:19:16 UTC  

For questionable content

2018-08-01 18:19:25 UTC  

Some journalists had their research deleted

2018-08-01 18:28:33 UTC  

That bad?! Is there a source?

2018-08-01 18:28:59 UTC  

thats months ago

2018-08-01 18:29:03 UTC  

I had a belief Google was doing shady \*\*\*\* but I wouldn't expect them to be wiping journalists.

2018-08-01 18:29:05 UTC  

Guess Ill have to search

2018-08-01 18:29:08 UTC  

Nah not on purpose

2018-08-01 18:29:21 UTC  

wait, months ago? oh yeah, of course they do bs shit now

2018-08-01 18:29:23 UTC  

They had some keywords to search for, so shit that sounds shady

2018-08-01 18:29:40 UTC  

Problem is, just cause you have that material does not make you a supporter of it.

2018-08-01 18:29:46 UTC  

they formed alphabet in like 2015

2018-08-01 18:29:59 UTC  

The innocent ones that were affected were journalists investigating shady shit.

2018-08-01 18:30:12 UTC  

Thats the issue with algorithms in general

2018-08-01 18:30:23 UTC  

so starting probably the year before, google was going down hill in the shady af department.

2018-08-01 18:30:48 UTC  

i miss when they were doing cool shit, like encourage missions to the moon and researching crazy shit like teleportation

2018-08-01 18:30:54 UTC  

not politically motivated BS

2018-08-01 18:31:14 UTC  

Or firing their smarter members.

2018-08-01 18:31:18 UTC  

I'd really like a source on these deleted drives.

It proves not only is Google engaging in censorship but that it might not be a trustworthy repository. It also proves they can and do scan the contents of files on their cloud.

2018-08-01 18:31:19 UTC  

They didnt read the fucking paper

2018-08-01 18:31:30 UTC  

No, like I said it wasnt intentional

2018-08-01 18:31:41 UTC  

They were targeting people with shady shit.

2018-08-01 18:31:46 UTC  

That last one, if that gets sufficiently public could **kill** Google's commerce.