Message from @pratel

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2018-08-01 04:29:05 UTC  

Hence the 'carer' part of the word 'carer', to 'care' for the decisions made

2018-08-01 04:29:20 UTC  

They should call them 'carers'

2018-08-01 04:30:18 UTC  

so the consent line is basically the same as the line at which they can no longer care for themselves

2018-08-01 04:30:20 UTC  

that seems fair

2018-08-01 04:32:18 UTC  

Well to care for yourself is to consent to your own decision. It's the same thing, do you consent to a home loan, do you consent to eating chocolate for breakfast, do you consent to munching dicks. All have long term effects

2018-08-01 04:34:21 UTC  

In the name of human rights you can't weigh some things more than others, sex is just another one of the many

2018-08-01 04:36:48 UTC  

idk i feel like letting timmy pick his breakfast cereal at the store is a whole different animal to letting timmy give uncle phil permission to diddle him

2018-08-01 08:58:56 UTC  

No, letting Timmy pick between Captain Crunch and Heroin is no different to letting Timmy pick between Susan from the hospital and uncle phil.

You have already demonstrated sensible logic by saying cereal, Timmy can pick a cereal because you let him choose between social norms, same as you can let him choose between Susan and Rebecca that both go to special Ed on the yellow school bus with him, and not let him eat uncle phils anus.

It is exactly the same thing

2018-08-01 15:46:24 UTC  

damn those Russian bots, draining Iran water so Trump oppresses Muslims! 😦

2018-08-01 17:12:25 UTC  

Mueller indictment of Russians for interfering in the 2016 election. A few things about this indictment.

1. It doesn’t accuse any Americans of wrong doing. The FBI has explicitly stated that the no Americans are being accused in the press conference about this indictment. This includes Trump, and everyone in his campaign.

2. No vote is claimed to have been affected by these events.

3. The Russians are accused of making fake accounts, online personas, and RL identities to spread propaganda in favor of Black Lives Matter, Sanders and Trump. Also Facebook ads were purchased, and a few events were planned.

4. The actual crimes here are related to identity theft, fraud and the obfuscation of being foreign agents.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

This is the first one FYI

2018-08-01 17:28:10 UTC  

Ty ty

2018-08-01 17:36:15 UTC  

The Chinese government blocks information on the internet about political opponents, free speech, sex, news, and academic studies. It bans websites about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, for instance, and references to “anticommunism” and “dissidents.” Mentions of books that negatively portray authoritarian governments, like George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm, have been prohibited on Weibo, a Chinese social media website. The country also censors popular Western social media sites like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, as well as American news organizations such as the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

2018-08-01 17:36:42 UTC  

"Do no evil" no wonder they got rid of it lol

2018-08-01 17:41:56 UTC  

Thats chynah to ya man

2018-08-01 17:46:53 UTC  

Google has been doing this for awhile.

There's an old PBS documentary on Tienanmen (Frontline: The Tank Man if you want to see it) and htey note that simply keying in google.com.cn and searching for Tiananmen makes no mention of the riots or aftermath.

Google briefly left China and retreated to Hong Kong for refusing to censor. Then they went back quietly. The Chinese never budged.

2018-08-01 17:49:39 UTC  

Well it looks to me like we need to promote alternative search engines fast

2018-08-01 17:50:11 UTC  

I dont use google ever since they stopped showing anime streaming sites

2018-08-01 17:54:29 UTC  

I use Bing personally. Bribery works.

2018-08-01 17:54:47 UTC  

I'm kinda unsure if it really matters too much. Silicon Valley can be a bit of a hive mind.

2018-08-01 17:55:00 UTC  

if only anime streaming sites were any good these days :c

2018-08-01 17:55:29 UTC  

Mistake is dealing with the chinese.

2018-08-01 17:55:41 UTC  

They are very powerful in terms of industrial prowess.

2018-08-01 18:17:20 UTC  

i don't know if you can blame china's censorship on google. They seemed to do a decent enough job following the motto do no evil until the split up and formed Alphabet, everything went down hill rather quickly after that.

2018-08-01 18:18:15 UTC  

You can't. But Google once took a hard stand against it and people are angry.

2018-08-01 18:19:11 UTC  

Dude they delete th google drives of people.

2018-08-01 18:19:16 UTC  

For questionable content

2018-08-01 18:19:25 UTC  

Some journalists had their research deleted

2018-08-01 18:28:33 UTC  

That bad?! Is there a source?

2018-08-01 18:28:59 UTC  

thats months ago

2018-08-01 18:29:03 UTC  

I had a belief Google was doing shady \*\*\*\* but I wouldn't expect them to be wiping journalists.

2018-08-01 18:29:05 UTC  

Guess Ill have to search

2018-08-01 18:29:08 UTC  

Nah not on purpose

2018-08-01 18:29:21 UTC  

wait, months ago? oh yeah, of course they do bs shit now

2018-08-01 18:29:23 UTC  

They had some keywords to search for, so shit that sounds shady

2018-08-01 18:29:40 UTC  

Problem is, just cause you have that material does not make you a supporter of it.

2018-08-01 18:29:46 UTC  

they formed alphabet in like 2015

2018-08-01 18:29:59 UTC  

The innocent ones that were affected were journalists investigating shady shit.

2018-08-01 18:30:12 UTC  

Thats the issue with algorithms in general

2018-08-01 18:30:23 UTC  

so starting probably the year before, google was going down hill in the shady af department.