Message from @Iakovos
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You may have "fallen" as you say. But god is always there waiting for you to come back
@Deleted User do orthodox believe Mary was sinless? Or an eternal virgin? That she never sinned?
Wasn’t Jesus the only sinless person?
Eastern Orthodox theology calls Mary the Theotokos, which means God-bearer. This term emphasizes Mary's status as the mother of God incarnate in Jesus but not the mother of God from eternity.
@Deleted User I know Catholics believe in immaculate conception, that she was sinless until she birthed Jesus
I know orthodox don't believe that. Was she eternally a virgin?
We Orthodox believe that the Panagia was conceived and born in a state of sin since she is a human being just like the rest of us. Only Christ was free of sin. We do venerate the Panagia highly though. She is the holiest of all the Saints and is like a member of our families. We do believe that the Panagia committed no actual personal sins. We believe that both through God’s grace and her free cooperation with God’s grace – both go together- she committed no sin. We believe she overcame every temptation to sin and thus remained ever pure, even in her mind and soul. There is a synergy, a cooperation, going on between God and the Panagia. She exercises her free will to respond to God
@Deleted User @Ragnarok do I have to accept immaculate conception to be Catholic? I do believe the Virgin Mary to be holy and pure, hence, "Hail Mary, full of grace." However, I can't find myself to see her as without original sin. She is merely human after all.
If God can save her from original sin, why didn't he do it for the rest of us? Instead, Christ's sacrifice even sanctified her.
That falls under papal infallibility
Even Aquinas rejected it.
Remember what Elizabeth said
What did she say?
Read this, this is from Aquinas
Then ask him why Hebrews appears to say something different
Check the scriptures higher
Technically you are not an apostate of the Church because you never left Catholicism
apostasy isn't a mortal sin
Denouncing Christ is.
Remember the 12 apostoles
Denying the sanctification of your baptism is.
one denounced christ in his time of need
True.
yet not only he was accepted in paradise
he carried on the will of Christ
And Christ did say, "Whoever denies me I will deny before my Father."
And Christ forgave Peter.
I have said before, and I will say it again
Christ will and ALWAYS wait for someone to find his way back
But even now we sleep in faith awaiting the bridegroom. The marriage between Church and Christ.
That will happen in his second coming, yet you have to understand
that your faith inside you is what matters mostly
your connection to god
I know. The lamp oil.