Message from @Iakovos

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2019-05-25 01:04:36 UTC  

Is this true? As long as one repents, despite Hebrews 6:4? The book of James says it can, too.

2019-05-25 01:05:08 UTC  

Then ask him why Hebrews appears to say something different

2019-05-25 01:05:19 UTC  

Check the scriptures higher

2019-05-25 01:05:22 UTC  

Technically you are not an apostate of the Church because you never left Catholicism

2019-05-25 01:05:27 UTC  

apostasy isn't a mortal sin

2019-05-25 01:05:43 UTC  

Denouncing Christ is.

2019-05-25 01:05:55 UTC  

Remember the 12 apostoles

2019-05-25 01:05:59 UTC  

Denying the sanctification of your baptism is.

2019-05-25 01:06:03 UTC  

one denounced christ in his time of need

2019-05-25 01:06:09 UTC  

True.

2019-05-25 01:06:15 UTC  

yet not only he was accepted in paradise

2019-05-25 01:06:22 UTC  

he carried on the will of Christ

2019-05-25 01:06:36 UTC  

And Christ did say, "Whoever denies me I will deny before my Father."

2019-05-25 01:06:42 UTC  

And Christ forgave Peter.

2019-05-25 01:07:04 UTC  

I have said before, and I will say it again

2019-05-25 01:07:16 UTC  

Christ will and ALWAYS wait for someone to find his way back

2019-05-25 01:07:52 UTC  

But even now we sleep in faith awaiting the bridegroom. The marriage between Church and Christ.

2019-05-25 01:08:34 UTC  

That will happen in his second coming, yet you have to understand

2019-05-25 01:08:56 UTC  

that your faith inside you is what matters mostly

2019-05-25 01:09:02 UTC  

your connection to god

2019-05-25 01:09:12 UTC  

I know. The lamp oil.

2019-05-25 01:10:06 UTC  

If you believe that your apostasy have severed the connection you have with God, you could ask a your local pastor/priest for guidance on fasting and daily prayer

2019-05-25 01:12:03 UTC  

But now that you have returned back to the light don't worry, god will stand with you and help you on your journey

2019-05-25 01:12:28 UTC  

I asked my priest to pray for me.

2019-05-25 01:13:12 UTC  

I may join the Catholic Church to be confirmed and partake of the Eucharist, but I will be exploring Orthodoxy.

2019-05-25 01:13:48 UTC  

Since Catholics believe that Orthodox are valid, immaculate conception doesn't seem necessary for Heaven.

2019-05-25 01:14:05 UTC  

If I get my slothful ass moving and go to church as I should do, I'll light a candle for you, if you don't mind though you could DM your first name to be more official though

2019-05-25 01:19:09 UTC  

So this is my understanding:

2019-05-25 01:19:42 UTC  

You could join the eastern branch of catholicism

2019-05-25 01:19:47 UTC  

Mary was conceived. At some point in the womb, she was cleansed by the Spirit.

2019-05-25 01:19:59 UTC  

I suppose but @Ragnarok would be better to guide you I believe

2019-05-25 01:20:07 UTC  

She was kept in a state of Grace

2019-05-25 01:20:31 UTC  

And she birthed Jesus. (She may or may not have sinned before being assumed into Heaven.)

2019-05-25 01:20:55 UTC  

The Pope claims that after her earthly life she was lifted into Heaven, which implies she died a natural death.

2019-05-25 01:21:17 UTC  

Only Christ, by will of his own power, ascended into heaven while alive.

2019-05-25 01:21:30 UTC  

For us, is that she never commited a personal sin but she had the original sin as only Christ was the only un-sinful person to place foot in Earth

2019-05-25 01:21:46 UTC  

I don't think it matters

2019-05-25 01:22:01 UTC  

In her prayer she claims that she will be praised for generations

2019-05-25 01:22:08 UTC  

It's only a small scriptural view difference

2019-05-25 01:22:16 UTC  

So, it's valid to look at her as the Mother of Mankind.

2019-05-25 01:22:22 UTC  

For us she is praised daily