Message from @Deleted User

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2019-05-24 00:12:15 UTC  

But man knows. The law of God is written in our hearts.

2019-05-24 00:13:22 UTC  

And? It says that once I have fallen away it's impossible to renew me again to repentance. What does that mean?

2019-05-24 00:14:22 UTC  
2019-05-24 00:16:31 UTC  

Read Hebrews 12:16-17

2019-05-24 00:17:54 UTC  

RIP

2019-05-24 00:18:08 UTC  

@Iakovos 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness. But He is patient with us, because He does not want any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

2019-05-24 00:18:33 UTC  

Hebrews 12:16-17
Hebrews 6:4

2019-05-24 00:19:25 UTC  

Read everything

2019-05-24 00:19:29 UTC  

Not individual verses

2019-05-24 00:19:41 UTC  

Esau begged forgiveness but was not sincere

2019-05-24 00:19:45 UTC  

That's what it's talking about

2019-05-24 00:20:02 UTC  

I'm sorry, but then doing it again, you do not receive absolution

2019-05-24 00:22:24 UTC  

It clearly says that once a Christian falls away there is no coming back.

2019-05-24 00:23:22 UTC  

* [12:15–17] Esau serves as an example in two ways: his profane attitude illustrates the danger of apostasy, and his inability to secure a blessing afterward illustrates the impossibility of repenting after falling away (see Heb 6:4–6).

2019-05-24 00:23:27 UTC  

This is from a commentary.

2019-05-24 00:25:03 UTC  

Ask the priest then if you don't like my answer.

2019-05-24 00:25:47 UTC  

James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

2019-05-24 00:26:34 UTC  

Psalm 145:14-16 The LORD helps the fallen and lifts those bent beneath their loads. The eyes of all look to you in hope; you give them their food as they need it. When you open your hand, you satisfy the hunger and thirst of every living thing.

2019-05-24 00:27:47 UTC  

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is unusual for human beings. But God is faithful, and he will not allow you to be tempted beyond your strength. Instead, along with the temptation he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to endure it.

2019-05-24 00:27:48 UTC  
2019-05-24 00:28:09 UTC  

You may have "fallen" as you say. But god is always there waiting for you to come back

2019-05-24 03:44:36 UTC  

@Iakovos right here my nigga

2019-05-25 00:42:58 UTC  

@Deleted User do orthodox believe Mary was sinless? Or an eternal virgin? That she never sinned?

2019-05-25 00:44:56 UTC  

Wasn’t Jesus the only sinless person?

2019-05-25 00:45:39 UTC  

Eastern Orthodox theology calls Mary the Theotokos, which means God-bearer. This term emphasizes Mary's status as the mother of God incarnate in Jesus but not the mother of God from eternity.

2019-05-25 00:46:55 UTC  

@Deleted User I know Catholics believe in immaculate conception, that she was sinless until she birthed Jesus

2019-05-25 00:47:16 UTC  

I know orthodox don't believe that. Was she eternally a virgin?

2019-05-25 00:49:44 UTC  

We Orthodox believe that the Panagia was conceived and born in a state of sin since she is a human being just like the rest of us. Only Christ was free of sin. We do venerate the Panagia highly though. She is the holiest of all the Saints and is like a member of our families. We do believe that the Panagia committed no actual personal sins. We believe that both through God’s grace and her free cooperation with God’s grace – both go together- she committed no sin. We believe she overcame every temptation to sin and thus remained ever pure, even in her mind and soul. There is a synergy, a cooperation, going on between God and the Panagia. She exercises her free will to respond to God

2019-05-25 00:57:03 UTC  

@Deleted User @Ragnarok do I have to accept immaculate conception to be Catholic? I do believe the Virgin Mary to be holy and pure, hence, "Hail Mary, full of grace." However, I can't find myself to see her as without original sin. She is merely human after all.

If God can save her from original sin, why didn't he do it for the rest of us? Instead, Christ's sacrifice even sanctified her.

2019-05-25 00:57:38 UTC  

@Iakovos yes you do

2019-05-25 00:57:48 UTC  

That falls under papal infallibility

2019-05-25 00:57:52 UTC  

Even Aquinas rejected it.

2019-05-25 00:57:57 UTC  

Remember what Elizabeth said

2019-05-25 00:58:03 UTC  

What did she say?

2019-05-25 00:58:51 UTC  
2019-05-25 00:59:46 UTC  

Read this, this is from Aquinas

2019-05-25 01:04:11 UTC  

Also Rag @Ragnarok priest said apostasy can be forgiven.

2019-05-25 01:04:36 UTC  

Is this true? As long as one repents, despite Hebrews 6:4? The book of James says it can, too.

2019-05-25 01:05:08 UTC  

Then ask him why Hebrews appears to say something different