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Read everything
Not individual verses
Esau begged forgiveness but was not sincere
That's what it's talking about
I'm sorry, but then doing it again, you do not receive absolution
It clearly says that once a Christian falls away there is no coming back.
* [12:15–17] Esau serves as an example in two ways: his profane attitude illustrates the danger of apostasy, and his inability to secure a blessing afterward illustrates the impossibility of repenting after falling away (see Heb 6:4–6).
This is from a commentary.
Ask the priest then if you don't like my answer.
James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
Psalm 145:14-16 The LORD helps the fallen and lifts those bent beneath their loads. The eyes of all look to you in hope; you give them their food as they need it. When you open your hand, you satisfy the hunger and thirst of every living thing.
1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is unusual for human beings. But God is faithful, and he will not allow you to be tempted beyond your strength. Instead, along with the temptation he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to endure it.
You may have "fallen" as you say. But god is always there waiting for you to come back
@Deleted User do orthodox believe Mary was sinless? Or an eternal virgin? That she never sinned?
Wasn’t Jesus the only sinless person?
Eastern Orthodox theology calls Mary the Theotokos, which means God-bearer. This term emphasizes Mary's status as the mother of God incarnate in Jesus but not the mother of God from eternity.
@Deleted User I know Catholics believe in immaculate conception, that she was sinless until she birthed Jesus
I know orthodox don't believe that. Was she eternally a virgin?
We Orthodox believe that the Panagia was conceived and born in a state of sin since she is a human being just like the rest of us. Only Christ was free of sin. We do venerate the Panagia highly though. She is the holiest of all the Saints and is like a member of our families. We do believe that the Panagia committed no actual personal sins. We believe that both through God’s grace and her free cooperation with God’s grace – both go together- she committed no sin. We believe she overcame every temptation to sin and thus remained ever pure, even in her mind and soul. There is a synergy, a cooperation, going on between God and the Panagia. She exercises her free will to respond to God
@Deleted User @Ragnarok do I have to accept immaculate conception to be Catholic? I do believe the Virgin Mary to be holy and pure, hence, "Hail Mary, full of grace." However, I can't find myself to see her as without original sin. She is merely human after all.
If God can save her from original sin, why didn't he do it for the rest of us? Instead, Christ's sacrifice even sanctified her.
That falls under papal infallibility
Even Aquinas rejected it.
Remember what Elizabeth said
What did she say?
Read this, this is from Aquinas
Is this true? As long as one repents, despite Hebrews 6:4? The book of James says it can, too.
Then ask him why Hebrews appears to say something different
Check the scriptures higher
Technically you are not an apostate of the Church because you never left Catholicism
apostasy isn't a mortal sin
Denouncing Christ is.
Remember the 12 apostoles
Denying the sanctification of your baptism is.
one denounced christ in his time of need