Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-07-06 22:34:22 UTC  

obviously only accessible by the government and PMCs

2018-07-06 22:36:59 UTC  

theres a ton of really good content that the Mises Institute covers on their channel though

2018-07-06 22:37:04 UTC  

just one example

2018-07-06 22:37:11 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend that was very simplistic view

2018-07-06 22:40:18 UTC  

i will take armies of Dale Brown clones over modern police thuggary manufactoring vicitimless crimes any day!

2018-07-06 22:40:56 UTC  

I think tl dr had some personal conflict with sargon before

2018-07-06 22:41:12 UTC  

"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view

2018-07-06 22:41:15 UTC  

His saltyness shows towards the end

2018-07-06 22:42:03 UTC  

well guess the subject has moved on! lol gg

2018-07-06 22:42:09 UTC  

Its the influencer part which matter not the number of new memebers

2018-07-06 22:42:22 UTC  

Ukip is ignored by mainstream media

2018-07-06 22:42:46 UTC  

And they need to get their message to ppl if they want to get their numbers back

2018-07-06 22:43:05 UTC  

Having ppl like sorgon and others shill for them is great way

2018-07-06 22:44:08 UTC  

New members help, but I agree that having people with large social media followings in their ranks is probably the larger boon

2018-07-06 22:44:37 UTC  

gotta get awareness up numbers come second

2018-07-06 22:44:48 UTC  

Like sargon just released hour long interview with baten and while i could object to lots of things there and it had terrible sound quality

2018-07-06 22:44:57 UTC  

people like sargon and dankula dont actually agree with most things ukip is about

2018-07-06 22:44:58 UTC  

It can be shared now

2018-07-06 22:45:02 UTC  

though pjw might

2018-07-06 22:45:11 UTC  

@Poptarts well either i misunderstood your original argument or it seems like youve changed your argument; before in the water example you were arguing for absolute ownership, but now seem to agree that there should be limits in some cases. the main difference seems to be that you are for private governance vs what we have today. one could argue that a democratic govt is also built on "contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually" though.

2018-07-06 22:45:26 UTC  

Well i think ukip does not know what it stands for atm

2018-07-06 22:45:34 UTC  

iirc Sargon and Dankula want to push for changes to UKIP

2018-07-06 22:45:42 UTC  

So they have chance to influence it to a degree

2018-07-06 22:45:54 UTC  

which may be easier if they are having identity issues anyway

2018-07-06 22:45:56 UTC  

yea

2018-07-06 22:45:58 UTC  

From what I understand, the goal with all of them joining UKIP was a soft coup

2018-07-06 22:46:01 UTC  

Move towards internet freedoms is great news

2018-07-06 22:46:05 UTC  

Rather than founding their own party

2018-07-06 22:46:09 UTC  

And ukip never cared for those before

2018-07-06 22:46:18 UTC  

yea

2018-07-06 22:46:23 UTC  

i think that sargon is mostly interested in coopting ukip for his own goals consitering liberalistism, justice democrats, and kekistan didint go his way

2018-07-06 22:46:28 UTC  

did you watch the interview sargon just released?

2018-07-06 22:46:48 UTC  

I did watch part of it

2018-07-06 22:46:48 UTC  

Its cheaper to coopt a pre-existing party than to create a new one

2018-07-06 22:46:58 UTC  

thats true

2018-07-06 22:47:12 UTC  

One could argue Democratic Socialists are attempting to Coopt the Democrats

2018-07-06 22:47:15 UTC  

Baten would never get similar interview from anyone else

2018-07-06 22:47:35 UTC  

Thats why i say sargon has helped ukip already

2018-07-06 22:47:48 UTC  

One could argue, but the Democrats seem to be co-opting the DSA's policies already